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[openFATE 308361] Offer remastered isos for released versions every N months
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  • Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:20:22 +0200 (CEST)
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Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii)
Feature #308361, revision 11
Title: Offer remastered isos for released versions every N months

Hackweek V: Unconfirmed
Requester: Important

openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed
Requester: Important

openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed
- Requester: Important
+ Requester: Mandatory

Requested by: Bernhard Wiedemann (bmwiedemann)
Partner organization:

Offer remastered isos for released versions every N months - with sane
N being in range (6..12)
Remastering has been done once for 10.1:
methods to make current factory.iso might not work for older releases
if isos shall be officially supported, some installation testing is
needed (for N>3, a determined individual (e.g. me) could easily do
Alternatives: Kiwi, SUSE Studio - but those lack GM templates and are
not as easy-to-use for that purpose for a user from the general public
keywords: remastered, respin, servicepack, slipstream

Use Case:
User A wants to install a stable version of openSUSE on his father's
computer, but since his father only has a modem connection, installing
100 MB of updates after installation to have a secure system is not
So user A downloads openSUSE-11.1-DVD-remastered1-i586.iso over his
broadband Internet connection, burns it and installs it, needing to
fetch at most updates of the last N months over slow Internet.

Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE GM isos are usually released with dozens of
known issues and hundreds of unknown issues for which later updates are
allows installations in cases where bugs in original
network/IDE/SATA/graphics driver prevented easy installation+update
allows to cleanup other ugly installation issues like
allows to easily install an updated system where no broadband internet
connection is available
compared to current GM isos, such an DVD iso is better suited for user-
archives after discontinuation, when updates become unavailable
hardly any extra work needed, as updates are already created and tested
existing image-creation mechanisms can be re-used
sort of the most bug-free openSUSE we can get

#1: Victor Ong (acuvic) (2009-11-24 23:14:28)
I like this idea very much. Besides useful in the case given above
(father's computer) when you need a reinstall after the original ISO
has been released for a while, it saves background mega update when
just after a reinstall and you are trying to use the computer. Just
bittorrent the latest ISO when you have spare time and dont need the
computer for a while. Or if your 'puter is kaput, ask a
friend/colleague to do it for you!
Perhaps instead of an ISO release after every N months, it should be a
release after X number updates, or even after Y MBytes of updates.
Because in N months, there might not be many updates or the converse is
"too many" updates.

#2: Carlos Lange (cflange) (2009-11-25 06:52:16)
I also like this a lot. I usually install every other release in all
computers in my lab, so by the end of the 1.5 year cycle, if I need to
install a new machine, the download and installation of patches is
Victor: I don't think it mathers if there were many patches (or few,
which would be a first!), since the download would always consist of a
DVD ISO image.

openSUSE Feature:

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