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[openFATE 305112] Add webcam configuration module for yast
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  • Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:47:32 +0200 (CEST)
  • Message-id: <feature-305112-45@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Feature changed by: Brandon Philips (philipsb)
Feature #305112, revision 45
Title: Add webcam configuration module for yast

openSUSE-11.1: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo)
reject date: 2008-07-29 10:34:17
reject reason: we do no people left for this. But yast is open source
Priority
Requester: Desirable

openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo)
reject date: 2009-08-12 10:57:38
reject reason: no volunteer
Priority
Requester: Desirable
Projectmanager: Desirable

openSUSE-11.3: Evaluation
Priority
Requester: Desirable
Projectmanager: Desirable

Requested by: Michael Löffler (michl19)
Partner organization: openSUSE.org

Description:
Webcam is configured automatically. But for users having trouble with
configuration a webcam configuration module would be useful. See also
bug #359729

Relations:
- USB Webcam in Yast (novell/bugzilla/id: 359729)
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=359729

Business case (Partner benefit):
openSUSE.org: Users in trouble with webcam configuration need a webcam
configuration possibility in YaST. As the usage of webcams is rising,
eg. through instant messanger this feature request adresses more and
more users

Discussion:
#1: andrea florio (anubisg1) (2008-11-18 16:33:45)
indeed, may be usefull to suggest the correct driver and/or the viewer
to use... example uvcvideo webcam works with luvcview but not with
camorama or wxcam and so on

#2: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-02-09 15:24:22) (reply to #1)
en.opensuse.org has several resources on how to write yast modules. If
you have concrete ideas what to do, go ahead. The yast team will openly
welcome you to help.

#3: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-13 02:26:22)
I think what might help significantly is simply taking the lsusb
vendor/device string, and then comparing that to a list automatically,
and either loading the correct module, or letting the user know that
they need to install a different kernel/package for that module.

#4: Drew Kwashnak (dragonbite) (2009-07-02 19:31:16)
In addition to configuring, if able to view the webcam in the
configuration module. Otherwise Kopete and Cheese are the easiest ways
to see if the webcam is working and brings int the possibility of a bug
with that application and the webcam interfering.


#8: Daniel FAIVRE (geomaticien) (2009-10-24 07:14:16) (reply to #4)
I fully agree with Drew and share the idea that we should have a YaST
module with preview instead of the need of luvcview, kopete, or
something else just to verify how well the webcam is working or even
how dark the room is ! ;-)

#5: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-08-12 10:57:26)
42 people voted for this feature, but noone even made a UI?

#6: Holger Dyroff (escubar) (2009-08-27 18:11:31) (reply to #5)
May it be that the webcams are so nicely recognized automatically in
the newest openSUSE version that this YaST Module is not anymore
needed? I was thinking to volunteer, but after reading the bug ID above
I know have the impression it might be a useless exercise?! Please let
me know your ideas ...

#7: Dean Hilkewich (deanjo13) (2009-08-27 19:16:21) (reply to #6)
I have a bunch of non uvc webcams that disagree with "webcams are so
nicely recognized automatically in the newest openSUSE".

#13: Drew Kwashnak (dragonbite) (2010-01-15 18:04:35) (reply to #7)
I have a uvc webcam (Microsoft NV-6000) that Cheese detects and can use
in other distributions, but NOT openSUSE.  I've been told to run env
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so cheese  or env
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype to get them to work.
While I haven't had the chance to try it out with Cheese yet in
openSUSE 11.2 Gnome (from a LiveCD), that it works with Fedora 10+ and
Ubuntu 8.10+, something is missing.

#9: andrea florio (anubisg1) (2009-10-24 19:49:09) (reply to #5)
the problem here is that not everybody are developers.. (like me, i
cannot write code)

#10: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:10:44)
Typically under openSUSE when I plug in a webcam after a new openSUSE
install, I end up running a number of different webcam apps to see if
the webcam works (amsn, cheese ... ) under any ? ...  and then if it
does not I end up installing various packages (v4l, packman packaged
gstreamer) and playing with gstreamer-properties (from gnome-media),
and rebuilding apps no longer packaged (such as camorama) with
"rpmbuild --rebuild app.src.rpm" in the hope that evenually I find one
that shows the web cam functions.
A centralized application under YaST makes a lot of sence although it
may take some work reliably, given the half dozen or so different web
cam drivers (where uvc and gscpav are the more common).
Unfotunately, I too am a user with no programming skills.

#11: Barry Nichols (barry_nichols) (2009-12-07 02:40:41)
That sounds like a great idea, especially as getting webcams to work is
still a huge problem in Linux.

#12: Marco Calistri (amdturion) (2009-12-10 19:05:09)
Sorry for my intervention, I am not a dev. but just a simple user and
Linux fan, since almost 10 years.
Among the partial, when not worse, total Linux's lack of video drivers
automatic management (i.e. in comparison to M$ capabilities) the
problem could be extended to the audio management as well.
For example my Philips SPC530 webcam, with embedded microphone, works
on video under opensuse 11.2, but doesn't on audio.
Even worse is the case of my second webcam with a SONIX SN9C20x bridge
(device IDs 0c45:62xx) which fails also on video.

#14: Daniele Tombolini (kailed) (2010-01-21 00:51:17)
Yast tv module could be extended to cover webcam too.

+ #15: Brandon Philips (philipsb) (2010-03-30 06:47:28)
+ If a webcam isn't working in Cheese (Skype, amsn, kopete, etc are
+ historically buggy and usually suspect) that means one of two things:
+ 1) Your driver is old and unsupportable. For example V4L1 devices may
+ be <a href="  http://lwn.net/Articles/380150/";>deprecated upstream
+ soon</a> but there is a workaround as pointed out in Comment #13. There
+ really isn't much openSUSE can do as these webcams are old (so getting
+ hardware is difficult) and the drivers are a very low quality and
+ mostly reverse engineered.
+ 2) The driver is broken. Please test the <a
href="http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/";
+ >Kernel of the Day</a> and file a bug.
+ If your camera is working in Cheese file a bug against the application.
+ I really don't see a need for a YAST module for something that should
+ work out of the box.



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