Closing the Leap Gap - Weekly Update All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ClosingTheLeapGap-meeting New Meeting location: https://meet2.opensuse.org/ClosingTheLeapGap (Friday 11:30 CEST) !!! PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE SESSION WAS MOVED TO https://meet2.opensuse.org/ClosingTheLeapGap Attendees (please add yourself): guillaumeg, lkocman, rudi, adrian, fcrozat, behlert, sbarth, sbahling, wolfgang, meissner, wgao, jsrain, ddemaio =================================== 1.0 Project plan: https://confluence.suse.com/display/leap/Project+plan =================================== 2.0 Schedule: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap =================================== 3.0 Priority items and blockers - Update tree ATM almost 3-times larger than GA project, no bsc# ATM, Lubos and PM were informed https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1177506 - [Migration][Build 209.2] openQA test fails in register_system - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/SUSE:/SLE-15-SP2 is not existed =================================== 4.0 Updates from individual teams =================================== 4.1 openSUSE Leap Release Management Owner: Lubos Kocman Feature Requests for SLE on SUSE Labs. It's going to be public on youtube (SUSE LABS channel). Two talks about Leap Next and Why should be companies interested in Leap Next. Rename of the product to Leap 15.2.1 including images happened this week. Initial Maintenance setup was done by Adrian. This should unblock SCC team. Potential ECR blocker was resolved. SCC setup is ready for Jump 15.2.1 so migration team should be unblocked. So far it seems like we'l have to fork about 40 packages for which CtLG features already are or will be implemented in SP3. It will be bit less as some are just request to add build dependency to SLE without any code change. **News: we have a weekly review meeting with screen-sharing for all openSUSE Leap Feature requests on Mondays 13:30 - 13:50 UTC | 15:30- 15:50 CEST @ https://meet.opensuse.org/FeatureRequests Everybody is welcome to join!** =================================== 4.2. openSUSE Leap Release Engineering Owner: Max Lin, Guillaume, Michel Max: Spend most of time on renaming product to Leap 15.2.1 Guillaume: ARM no news compared to last week * FPC will be updated again in 15.2:Update with a fix for some aarch64 machines * VLC is missing on aarch64: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1175972 3.0.11.1 pushed toLeap:15.2:Update. Will be processed after release. Marcus just released the update. * 32-bit ARMv7: Lubos to talk to PM. Meanwhile Guillaume will drive the planning effort Rudi: there is only one single box in IBS that can do ARM-32bit so there would be veto from Autobuild team. Adrian: it would have to be done retrospectively for SP0. Adrian: either we have to rebuild SLE as it's inherited or simplify it and risk the different build results. Or simply fork Factory. Rudi: Ports for Jump? e.g. for RISC-V in the future. Lubos will make sure that Guillaume has access to survey.opensuse.org so we can ask our Users what's their usecases for 32bit ARM. Michel: I will be in vacation until 28/10. for Jump: ppc64le not working on bare metal https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1174166 I just created a srhttps://build.opensuse.org/request/show/834842 Review granted docker_runc test failed for ppc64le https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/67366 docker-19.03.11_ce-lp152.1.4.ppc64le for Leap15.2 update not present in Jump15.2 no update after email sent to Package Hub team. java test failure https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1172584 for ppc64le/x86_64: java-1_8_0-openjdk-devel-1.8.0.252 for Leap15.2 not present in Jump15.2 no update after email sent to Package Hub team. For aarch64 need also merge of https://github.com/os-autoinst/os-autoinst-distri-opensuse/pull/11103 podman issue: the openqa/registry differences https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/1405349#step/podman_image/11 ^ command 'podman pull registry.opensuse.org/opensuse/leap/Jump:15.2/arm/images/totest/contain ers/opensuse/leap:Jump:15.2' failed , 1) once we had the container images then we will know the right path 2) Jump:15.2 here is VERSION variable on openQA, we need to correct it in the openqa test just created issue https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/71902 Fabian started work on it, but openQA tests blocked by https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70957 "Maintenance setup for Jump" Max: Michel can you please get me the link for systemd-network issue? https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176088 Let's get a list of packages that have to be rebuild in Jump as they still contain branding (should not be that many). These packages should have a CtLG Feature requests in jira.suse.com. Still pending lkocman: to open task in progress-o-o Adrian already re-published project manually but there is still some work left to have it "implemented". Still pending. Lubos: to check o the opensuse-admin issue. =================================== 4.3 SLE Release Management Owner: Alex Herzig, Stefan Weiberg Not present. =================================== 4.4 Autobuild Owner: Rüdiger Oertel Adrian Schroeter Update tree issue (see above) Sources and debug trees were not yet moved to the current snapshot of Updates. Rename of product broke the update scripts and caused issues with changelogs. 3rd thing, Adrian needs to implement some nice way of handling patchinfo. zypper up patch would not catch them. Only zypper up would handle it. Scott: Package Hub has the same issue with patchinfo. We'd like to see it fixed as well. Adrian: it has to be implemented first. It seems to be more easy to implement for Patchinfo. We need a script that re-does repository for SCC. TBD: sync of internal to external comments on mirrored submissions Adrian: who will be signoff interlock https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ClosingTheLeapGap-20200924-interlock-discuss... Transfer of comments from IBS requests back to OBS submit requests to SLE needs to get implemented. https://api.opensuse.org/public/source/openSUSE?view=productlist&expand=1 ^ Is resolved by Adrian. openSUSE Jump project needs to be made as part of the official Product list in OBS. Adrian: Marco has finished the version for the request cloning. SLE requested triggered by openSUSE community (request comes from external). https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Jump:OBS:SRMirroring Marcus mentioned that user employees should not be trackable. For embargoed issues it would be a topic, but if it's coming from outside, that's not really issues. We need to make sure that users are aware of the syncing. Marcus: none of the bots leak confidential information. Comments need to be anonymized. Adrian: I'll talk to speak to Marco to add a text to submission so it's clear that request is synced to OBS. Marcus: Single line banner would be useful for our employees. Fixed the sync to ftp-stage by reverting the iso naming scheme from 15.2.1 back to 15.2. Do we really need the 15.2.1 number, it's seems to be just problematic and we do not use it anywhere in deliverable names etc. Adrian still need to provide SLE maintenance updates in a form of consumable ftp tree in form of installation. https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70957 Adrian needs confirmation from PM that they're okay with his proposal. Marco is working on the osc packtrack which should help us to see product changes that happened in between builds or over some period of time. =================================== 4.5 Maintenance Owner: Stephan Barth Marcus will reach out to QAM regarding the test setup. Maintenance setup for Jump/Leap 15.2.1 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70957 Marcus: needs to know how to set it up, so we can setup announce tools. We don't have test-updates at this tome. Marcus: one test project for openSUSE:Jump it's openSUSE:Jump:15.2.1:Update. we're currently blocked on repo-layout decision, which is blocked on geo-location/ECR. Backports are currently the best effort for Updates. We might need to revisit backports. Lubos and Woflgang will create documentation about handling Backports submit requests until next Friday. This is currently gray area for openSUSE release team. The current way we think is that we would aggregate updates from SLE, openSUSE Backports and Jump for any branding/pattern/000* changes. This could be perhaps then aggregated to a single repository, so user does not end up with subscribing to 3 different repositories. Marcus: the backports parts seem to be weird, because the backports repo has a lower quality. https://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:Jump/Policy/ChangeValidation - reference to backports Marcus is currently concerned about quality of the backports as there is no openQA Marcus agrees on the mini-interlock idea currently aiming signoff to mid of October 2020. Stefan is fine with mini interlock proposal as well. =================================== 4.6 Security Owner: Marcus Meissner Waiting for final repositories, openQA set-up will follow. Adrian: 2 of 3 repos are ready, should unblock. No progress on SecureBoot issues. Lubos to schedule meeting with Max Lin, Marcus, Lubos, Guillaume. No security concerns at this moment. Secure boot: will we use SUSE signed bootloader, since we use SUSE signed shim, kernel, grub2. We will use SLE bootloader. If we'd rebuild it will be a problem. What about Virtualbox which is is signed just by openSUSE key. We should have perhaps shim which allows to load both signatures, or kernel that allows both signatures. Max the problem si about kernel config and KMPs. SLE kernel has pretty strict lockdown. mockbuild dialog during boot could be an option. Lubos to reach out to kernel team. =================================== 4.7 Package Hub Owner: Wolfgang Engel, Scott Bahling Discussion about contributions Package Hub/Leap. Initiator was the linking of Jump/Leap and Backport repositories. Future of PackageHub. Could we choose packages from the new distribution based on criteria that these are packages that we would like to install and would not disrupt SLE. Lubos, Max, Guillaume, Michel, Ismail, Scott, and Wolfgang to have a meeting to co-ordinate on Backports co-operation. Could perhaps current backports stuff work on the distribution part for SLE? While openSUSE release team would handle primarily incoming submissions. We'll have meeting after Michel is back from FTO. =================================== 4.8 Beta Program Owner: Vincent Moutoussamy Not present =================================== 4.9 Engineering / Product Migration Owner: Jiri Srain No update =================================== 4.10 Engineering - Kernel Owner: Libor Pechacek Not present Still discussing the preempt variants and flavors of SLE and Leap kernels. =================================== 4.11 Engineering - Desktop Owner: Frederic Crozat Some CtlG features needed re-submit by developers. Autumn festival is finished in China, we are getting fixes again. New plymouth was accepted in 15-SP3, including CtlG submission, this should be used for Jump. Other CtlG features are being integrated in SLE atm. =================================== 4.12 Quality Assurance / Migrations Owner: Marita Werner, Heiko, Wei Gao Today is first day at work after Holiday. Another issue after registration. boo#1177506 =================================== 4.13 SLE Architect Owner: Thorsten Kukuk Not present =================================== 4.14 Marketing and Community management Owner: Douglas DeMaio (on leave) No update =================================== 4.15 Gerald Owner: Gerald ;-) Not present =================================== 4.16 Product Management Owner: Stefan Behlert No update ============== 5.0 Other topics General question: Should we move Backports to an official update area in the FTP server? Should we generate the update tree directly in IBS (topic for future)?