October 2019 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Can we assume that /bin/sh is bash?
by Martin Wilck 21 Mar '22

21 Mar '22

Hi Jan, all, I'd like to carry our OBS dicussion to a wider audience (https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/672510). The question is whether we can assume that "/bin/sh" links to bash, in particular whether rpm scriptlets without explicit -p interpreter can be assumed to interpreted by bash. I'm aware that, in principle, /bin/sh is supposed to be the Bourne shell on Unix systems. But as a matter of fact, on current openSUSE, it is not. Unless it's tampered with, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash. bash is not started in full POSIX mode if invoked as /bin/sh, and even if it's in POSIX mode, it supports some extensions over the POSIX shell spec (e.g. the [[ ]] construct), which makes it behave differently than another shell not supporting [[ ]] would (*). Problably there are more differences, I can't claim to know them all. Here are some arguments why I think it'd be reasonable to assume that /bin/sh is bash on openSUSE: 1. patterns-base-minimal_base depends on bash, and the /bin/sh symlink is a non-configurable part of the "bash" package. 2. we could handle /bin/sh via /etc/alternatives, but we don't. 3. our Wiki suggests testing failing scriplets using "bash -xv" (https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_scriptlet_snippets) 4. /bin/sh has pointed to bash for a long time (not sure how long exactly). FTR, Fedora basically guarantees (sh == bash) for the purpose of rpm scriptlets (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Scriptlets). So Fedora <-> openSUSE portability may also be an issue to consider. If we can't assume that /bin/sh is bash, what else can we assume? I recall from earlier work that writing really 100% compatible shell code for all kinds of environments is really hard. E.g., "[" isn't 100% portable either, even though it's part of the POSIX "test" standard (http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/test.html). We should have clear rules which syntax expressions can be used in rpm scriptlets, and which can't. IMO we should define one of the various existing shells as a reference by saying "if it's supported by this shell, it's valid scriptlet code". That'd be easier (especially for testing compliance) than referring to a spec. That reference shell doesn't have to be bash, of course. Thanks Martin (*) For example: # ln -s /usr/bin/echo '/usr/bin/[[' # ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Feb 8 10:38 /bin/sh -> bash # /bin/sh --posix -c '[[ 2 = 1 ]] && echo yes' # dash -c '[[ 2 = 1 ]] && echo yes' 2 -eq 1 ]] yes -- Dr. Martin Wilck <mwilck(a)suse.com>, Tel. +49 (0)911 74053 2107 SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Too many packages to process
by Vojtěch Zeisek 12 Mar '21

12 Mar '21

I'm not sure, if this is bug or feature... After few days, update applet (TW, KDE) says there are 6843 new updates (TeX, R, ... ;-). When I click to "Install updates" error "Too many packages to process (6843/5200)" appears. Zypper handles it well. Is it worth of bug report? To b.o.o? Yours, V. -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/

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[opensuse-factory] Default browser: chromium?
by Tomas Chvatal 09 Jan '20

09 Jan '20

Hi, Let the flamewar begin! No really I was now watching the people rightfully complaining I've sent a borked chromium to latest TW snapshot and was wondering how popular the browsers are and whether we should not set the chromium instead of firefox as default or to keep them both on the dvd tested... In order to even start some process lets all vote in a poll for what is your default browser between the two (yes yes you can use the Vivaldi or even w3m, but honestly the chromium or ff are the two used by the majority of the people around). So if I could get you to vote in my lovely poll: https://doodle.com/poll/nnn53kkryghdvc84 I will make the results hidden so people won't start to game the system too much and the results will be announced here at the beginning of the October. Cheers Tom

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[opensuse-factory] Default Java
by Bernd Ritter 08 Jan '20

08 Jan '20

Hi there, just wanted to let you guysome days ago I wondered what the default java version would be. It should be Java 11. So I've installed a clean leap beta installation. I've installed java-openjdk-10, java-openjdk-11, java-openjdk-1_8_0. Same with the equivalent devel packages. The default java version is Java 11 both with "java" and "javac" via update-alternatives. So everything's fine. I've updated the wiki page accordingly (https://en.opensuse.org/Features_15.1#Java). Does anyone know why there is no Apache Maven available in the default packages? There is this "maven-local", which I think is not the maven program itself. Cheers, Bernd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE reproducible builds status 2019-01
by Bernhard M. Wiedemann 23 Dec '19

23 Dec '19

Hi, last month's status: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-12/msg00171.html Last months' r-b project updates (including my work): https://reproducible-builds.org/blog/posts/195/ https://reproducible-builds.org/blog/posts/194/ https://reproducible-builds.org/blog/posts/193/ https://reproducible-builds.org/blog/posts/192/ I uploaded https://rb.zq1.de/compare.factory-20190125/ today and rbstats are: total-packages: 11298 build-tried: 11297 build-failed: 37 build-n-a: 107 build-succeeded: 11153 build-official-failed+na: 85 build-compare-failed: 283 build-compare-succeeded: 10870 bit-by-bit-identical: 10605 not-bit-by-bit-identical: 538 Fixed core packages since last month: breeze5-icons dolphin libqt5-qtwebkit wireshark syntax-highlighting: Qt rcc/qrc fix merged in Factory https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/663360 also fixed dozens others like bitcoin. opa-ff CPU-detection via -march=native https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/661771 gengetopt https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/661735 nearly fixed: pcre2 PGO/parallelism https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/668163 perl: ASLR-induced randomness https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/668211 --- ring0 --- acl gcc7 gcc8 --- ring1 --- MozillaFirefox MozillaThunderbird ant bsf colord emacs firebird gconf2-branding-openSUSE gdb gimp gnome-documents go1.10 go1.11 groff-full grub2 hamcrest installation-images java-11-openjdk java-1_8_0-openjdk jing-trang jtidy junit junitperf kernel-debug kernel-default kernel-vanilla kubernetes libkolabxml libqt5-qtscript libreoffice mono-core mozilla-nss pcp php7 python-base python3-base qdox release-notes-openSUSE ruby2.5 rubygem-gem2rpm rust scons transfig virtualbox xmlbeans yodl If you are interested in why they vary: acl: date+time in /usr/share/locale/en(a)boldquot/LC_MESSAGES/acl.mo -PO-Revision-Date: 2018-10-23 01:45+0000 +PO-Revision-Date: 2033-11-24 15:01+0000 gcc7 gcc8: indeterminism from PGO/parallelism + mtime. See also https://github.com/bmwiedemann/theunreproduciblepackage/tree/master/pgo MozillaFirefox MozillaThunderbird: date+time, rust, other has bug around update.locale symlink /usr/lib64/firefox/libxul.so varies from https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57041 .../browser/extensions/langpack-ca(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/manifest.json - "version": "20181009013946" + "version": "20331110172641" apache-commons-lang3 apache-pdfbox dom4j hsqldb icu4j javassist jing-trang jtidy junitperf jython objectweb-asm qdox tomcat xerces-j2 xpp2 xpp3: date + mtime in .jar + javadoc html can be normalized by strip-nondeterminism bsh2 cglib: /usr/share/maven-metadata/bsh2.xml has ASLR order issues date + mtime in .jar + javadoc html colord some randomness from uninitialized memory maybe from glib-compile-resources 16-byte random profileID in .icc files from cd-create-profile plus an uncommitted date/time fix in lib/colord/cd-it8.c: priv->enable_created = FALSE ecj ASLR + date? /usr/share/maven-metadata/ecj.xml has alias entries in random order emacs dumps lisp interpreter memory to create its binaries (similar to clisp) causes variations in /usr/bin/emacs-* firebird: ships unreproducible database http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-5548 gconf2-branding-openSUSE embeds mtime values in /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.vendor/%gconf-tree.xml gdb contains testresults https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1110708 gimp ASLR 12 byte differ in bKGD header from gegl GEGL_USE_OPENCL=no GEGL_SWAP=ram /usr/bin/gegl ../../icons/Symbolic/64/gimp-texture.png -o 64/gimp-texture.png -- gegl:invert-gamma gnome-documents gnome-documents-getting-started.pdf has random ID from inkscape go1.10 go1.11: variations in /usr/lib64/go/1.10/pkg/obj/go-build/*/*-a groff-full date+time + unknown reason? .ps files vary .html files have CreationDate grub2 mtime + readdir https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?54841 hamcrest java .class files vary from build/temp/hamcrest-core/generated-code /org/hamcrest/CoreMatchers.java written by ant javadoc html varies installation-images many variations from mtimes + filesys/readdir and %post scripts java-1_8_0-openjdk java-10-openjdk java-11-openjdk various .jar .zip .html .jmod ordering in /usr/lib64/jvm/java-10-openjdk-10/lib/classlist kernel-debug kernel-default kernel-vanilla date+time ; random keys? "Build time autogenerated kernel key0 ..181009012108Z..21180915012108Z0.1,0" kubernetes: fixed upstream: order in man-pages https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/pull/68983 maybe fixed upstream: random build-ids libkolabxml unknown/ASLR? from build/kolabformat-xcal-schema.cxx created by compiled/xsdbin.cxx libqt5-qtscript filesys order libreoffice various .jar .so .dat/.bau (.zip) javadoc_log.txt mono-core date+time ; other mozilla-nss DSA random temp-key from shlibsign https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1081723 pcp /var/lib/pcp/testsuite/perfevent/perfevent_coverage has random diffs from gcov / .gcno files causing diff in .o ? php7 date / EPOCH timestamps e.g. in /usr/share/php7/PEAR/.channels/__uri.reg python-base python3-base: PGO varies .o files that go into /usr/lib64/libpython3.6m.so.1.0 .pyc files vary python-base shows influence from date+hostname (in PGO?) python-numpy 1 .pyc file varied release-notes-openSUSE partial fix in https://github.com/openSUSE/daps/issues/482 date+time in .pdf ; needs work on fop java code random id values in .html ruby2.5 2 gemspec files have date created.rid varies rubygem-gem2rpm mtime ? /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/2.5.0/cache/checksums.yaml varies rust asm diffs in cargo and others from llvm's llc - filed at https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57041 some progress made here with the switch to llvm7 scons hostname in various places tigervnc date+time+randomness in /usr/share/vnc/classes/META-INF/TIGERVNC.RSA from SignJar.cmake calling jarsigner with temporary private key partial fix merged https://github.com/TigerVNC/tigervnc/pull/765 transfig date+time in sample-presentation.pdf /CreationDate /ModDate from pdflatex virtualbox tar + random https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/16854 .so files have random NT_GNU_BUILD_ID (unique build ID bitstring) maybe from out/linux.amd64/release/obj/webservice/gsoapH_from_gsoap.h that has date+time in comment /usr/share/virtualbox/extensions/VNC-5.2.16.vbox-extpack unhandled gzip content: POSIX tar archive (GNU) -13343137165.010505. 5... +16773576625.010527. 5... xmlbeans index.xsb varies from filesystem created in org.apache.xmlbeans.impl.tool.SchemaCompiler yodl pdf from latex/ghostscript/dvips/ps2pdf additionally, on the SLE15 list =============================== gnuplot date+time in pdf from pdflatex golang-github-prometheus-prometheus date+time+random build-id hawk2 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1112159 ibus-libzhuyin libpinyin libzhuyin random bytes - maybe uninitialized memory perf random filesys order from nftw call in ./linux-*/tools/perf/pmu-events/jevents.c python-keystoneauth1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystoneauth/+bug/1796899

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[opensuse-factory] Edit Dialog in QtPass not Populated
by Charles Philip Chan 17 Nov '19

17 Nov '19

Hello all, For about the past 2 weeks the edit dialog in QtPass is empty, however, the record display in the right hand panel in the main window is showing up properly. Also, the window in Passff (the Firefox plugin) is empty. I am wondering if it is a problem with pass being build with LTO? Have anyone else encountered this problem? I am on the latest Tumbleweed. Thanks. Charles

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[opensuse-factory] [VOTE] Revisiting openSUSE and SLE package changelog change policy
by Lubos Kocman 13 Nov '19

13 Nov '19

Hello all! I'd like to ask you to participate in a following survey concerning Code Submit Reviews specifically changelog changes: https://www.surveymonkey.de/r/TVTBYTZ This survey is concerning package changelog in IBS. Example: https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/bash/bash.cha… **We (core team*) would like to implement one of (or combination) presented solutions in order to improve current Submit Review Process. This process currently requires process exceptions in specific cases concerning changelog changes.** Here is list of identified use cases which helped us to form our two proposals https://paste.opensuse.org/76800949 *core team consisted of one or more representatives from following teams got a task to improve the situation: BuildOPS, SLE Rel-mgmt, LABS, Security, Certification, openSUSE reviewers, Future Technology, Customer Support, Quality Assurance, Maintenance team. Your vote matters! Best regards Luboš Kocman Technical Project Manager SLE | Release Manager for Modules SUSE Software Solutions Germany, GmbH Maxfeldstrasse 5 90409 Nuernberg Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Mary Higgins, Sri Rasiah HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Changing %_libexecdir to /usr/libexec
by Michael Schroeder 08 Nov '19

08 Nov '19

Hi folks, OBS request 738494 from Neal will change %_libexecdir from /usr/lib to /usr/libexec. This was proposed in July on the opensuse-packaging list with only Thorsten and Jan replying (Jan being in favor). I don't want to merge it right now without giving you some time to discuss this change. So please, if you have good reasons why this is a bad idea please speak up! If there are no strong objections, I'll merge the request at the end of next weak. Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Schroeder mls(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF Jeff Hawn, HRB 16746 AG Nuernberg main(_){while(_=~getchar())putchar(~_-1/(~(_|32)/13*2-11)*13);} -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Requirement for the current version %{perl_requires} not working
by Arjen de Korte 07 Nov '19

07 Nov '19

Quote from https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Perl "Since 11.4 the requirement for the current version of perl should be written as: %if 0%{?suse_version} < 1140 Requires: perl = %{perl_version} %else %{perl_requires} %endif Before 11.4, we need an explicit 'Requires' using the %perl_version macro." This above doesn't seem to do the job anymore. There is no dependency on the perl version in Factory and RPM Lint complains about perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-Plugin-iXhash2.ppc64le: W: no-dependency-on perl-base 5.28.1 perl-Mail-SpamAssassin.ppc64le: W: no-dependency-on perl-base 5.28.1 If I use the pre 11.4 method, it does add a requirement 'perl = 5.28.1' and this warning isn't thrown. I think the lack of this dependency, is the cause of orphaned directories under /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/<old perl verdions>/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/ since packages install stuff there, which is left behind when perl is updated and said packages are not removed first. For every perl5 version that was ever installed on this system, I see a directory /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/<old perl version>/86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/Mail/ which is left behind orphaned (= owned by nothing). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Board Decision on groups in spec files.
by Simon Lees 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

Hi All, It likely comes as no surprise to anyone one that the groups in spec file issue was raised with the board (one of these was on a public list). In this specific email we are acting in our role of "helping resolve conflicts" complaints were also made directly about the behavior of certain individuals (again including on this list). The board has chosen to deal with these issues in private as is our general approach to such issues. Firstly the board generally agrees that in the following thread [1] there was a plan and general agreement to follow it for the removal of groups if certain other issues were resolved. As such we believe they acted with good intentions when starting to remove group support from various places such as Yast, rpmlint and spec cleaner. The board decided to wait until the discussion on new proposals settled down, before going forward with the issue, at the time we had the discussion we believed this to be the case. Of all the proposals discussed the board agreed that the one submitted by Ludwig [2], to move groups into the repository meta data is technically the best solution and the one most broadly supported by contributors. As such we welcome any contributions from the community towards getting this working and integrated into tooling where it makes sense such as Yast and software.opensuse.org Given that our core tooling no longer displays groups and that the board has a copy of all the existing groups that can be used as a starting point for the new system the board has decided that including groups in spec files should now be optional with the final decision resting with the maintainer as some maintainers may still use there spec files in distro's that still support groups although we believe most packages going into factory wont. We realize that this decision will not make everyone happy but hopefully it eventually leads to better group support in the future. 1. https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-05/msg00460.html 2. https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2019-10/msg00263.html -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B

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