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Re: [opensuse-factory] Lock grades for zypper
On 20/09/2019 19.43, Mykola Krachkovsky wrote:
пʼятниця, 20 вересня 2019 р. 19:55:03 EEST Carlos E. R. написано:
Just install them into /usr/local prefix, it's standard, already in the
$PATH before /usr/bin and its purpose for software from non-repo sources,
like building from source files.

I thought that /usr/local is for installation without rpm.

Yeah, that would be more correct.

e. Lock to prevent removal but upgrade/downgrade is allowed

Example? Why it's proposed for removal while it's in repositories?

Maybe because it is superseded by something else.

If something needs it, then this should be resolved by conflict.

I install things without rpm. Some I compile myself.

And correct way to install them into /usr/local. But in any case zypper
doesn't know about it, it's not in rpm db, zypper can't use it for dependency
solving, making rpm — easiest way to do so. OBS for open-source and easy to
keep once built for several hosts and might be useful for others. If it's a
proprietary code, it's possible to make rpm locally.

5 | calibre | package | (any)

I install without rpm, directly from upstream.

Why just don't keep it in OBS?

Upstream recommends not to, for starters. There is an official openSUSE
rpm, which is fine. And there are other repos (13 for TW). I'm not going
to add another - but anyway, OBS is Greek to me, even though I was a dev.


6 | cdrkit-cdrtools-compat | package | (any)

Distro wanted to install it, instead of proper cdrtools.

I can't find this in standard tumbleweed repository…

Yes, old thing, I can probably remove it now (my system is Leap, anyway).



7 | pk-update-icon | package | (any)

Not in repository too.

Leap has it.


8 | plymouth | package | (any)

I just removed it.

To make sure a package doesn't ever come back, you have to taboo it.
YaST does not remember that a package was removed by the admin, a
dependency can install it back in the future.


9 | rekall | package | (any)
10 | rekall-examples | package | (any)
11 | rekall-mysql | package | (any)

No longer in distro, to prevent removal.

12 | smapi | package | (any)

Mine, obsolete. Prevent removal.

Again, I'd created home repos to keep them.

smapi does not build anymore.
rekall I have not tried, but if I do, it would not be with OBS.


13 | tracker-miner-thunderbird | package | (any)

Broken, do not want it.

Where did you get it from?

Part of the distro at some point...

The current incumbent is tracker-miners (but no mail handler that I can
see).



14 | wodim | package | (any)

Do not want it.

It's not there...

Fortunately :-)


You see, under the same name (lock) some prevent removal, some prevent
installation. It is confusing.

So this just to make it easier to read? I can't see a point for this
difference from zypper, apart from "allow to update but prevent removing",
this might be useful, though I don't remember I needed it.

I don't have a definite opinion, just showing examples :-)

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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