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Re: [opensuse-factory] Reclaiming /srv and some other servery type of stuff

On 07/07/2019 03:38, Eric Schirra wrote:

Am 6. Juli 2019 11:56:51 MESZ schrieb Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@xxxxxxx>:

On Saturday 2019-07-06 10:59, Eric Schirra wrote:
Am Samstag, 6. Juli 2019, 02:27:02
/srv is _defined_ by FHS in the same spirit to /home.
Asking for software be installed in /srv is like asking for software
be installed in /home (which is ridiculous).

No it is not. Home only for user things. Srv for "world".
See links in my other post.

Furthermore, I find it extremely annoying when I install a software as
a pact
and then does not run at all and I have to read the installation
of the developers. Then I do not need a package.

Great, then you are not even a user affected by the proposed change.

of course. I use nextcloud myself and want to keep this in srv. Incidentally,
I'm a maintener bn nextcloud and one of those who makes sure that the package
is up to date and also updates every update without any action. which is not
the case with many web applications.

(Even if something lives in /usr, it can be made to behave as if it
present in /srv as far as a web server is concerned. kopano-webapp.spec
that for example.)
and that bothers me. I have to look under a hundred folder that of kopano.
under srv there are nextcloud and two or three others and ready

PS: Even if that does not belong in this thread. I think there are
important things / problem to solve in openSUSE. For example, Ancient
and libraries, just because they are in SLE. :-(

Well, if you think those topics are important, you are free to work on
just as Stasiek is free to work on issues he considers important.
and what shall I do? all attempts to bring new package versions or current versions of
libraries and applications in leap 15.1 failed. always on the grounds that comes from
sle. more attempts were dismissed, which even once went almost so far that I should be
blocked. Since then I do not do anything for leap. As a "small" packager and
user at opensuse I have no management at all to do this. I am synonymous with stability,
which is why I also use leap and tumblweed. if that goes so far, the desktop programs
nei a new leap vetsion are clearly slt, then that goes too far. opensuse itself with
such old desktop apps even no favor. see also the comments on the web. Among other
things, it has never been so quiet on the web at 15.1. I wonder why?

I think your missing the point of Leap, Leap is meant to be stable and boring, its meant to keep the same or a very similar base system for most of its lifecycle, it intentionally doesn't get the newest everything stuff is only upgraded if there is a really good reason, this is what some openSUSE users want. For people who want the latest stuff tumbleweed is a far better option.



Simon Lees (Simotek)

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