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Re: [opensuse-factory] Friendly warning: Python 2 is going to be removed from Factory on 2020-01-02

Am Montag, 15. April 2019, 14:26:59 CEST schrieb Matěj Cepl:
Michael Ströder píše v Po 15. 04. 2019 v 14:13 +0200:
So this is simply your personal ego-trip not to care about what
others need.

Personal attack without any relevant argument to the issue -> *plonk*

You are of course free to block whoever you want, but if I look at the
texts from the previous mails, I'd say Michael's previous answer was
more technical than yours ;-)

Let me bring that text back:

On 4/15/19 2:05 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Michael Ströder píše v Po 15. 04. 2019 v 13:56 +0200:
I really wonder why this is necessary. Given the fact that
there are enterprise distros maintaining Python 2 for a much
longer time there will be backport patches available for
upcoming security issues. And I'm willing to take care of that.

So there are patches (even if I feel with the poor SLE 12 maintainers)
and someone is willing to do the work for openSUSE.
What else do we need? ;-)

You are free to keep your own project on OBS with packages you
to support (or use Leap), but Factory is for “the newest stable
software” and “bleeding edge software”, not the museum of computer

That sounds like "do whatever you want, but I'll forbid you to keep
python2 in Factory" [1] - and the "museum of computer archeology" also
doesn't sound like a technical argument to me. Hey, with that argument,
we'd have to remove all those command-line dinosaurs like vim, emacs and
mutt because nowadays everybody wants GUI programs anyway!

That said: I'm not surprised that Michael answered in the way he did ;-)
I have to agree that your "argument" sounds more like a personal opinion
and not like a technical argument, therefore you shouldn't be too
surprised about the (not really diplomatic, but IMHO correct) summary
you got.

And finally - in case you don't like my answer, feel free to block me
too ;-)


Christian Boltz

[1] Last time I checked our rules, the main reason to forbid a package
in Tumbleweed were legal reasons, and I'm sure that won't apply to
python2 ;-)
I preferred to do it here so that everybody can think about it, refuse
it, burn it, stone me and condemn me for sorcery or be cheerful and
happy (the unlikely case). [takanov AT in opensuse-project]
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