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Re: [opensuse-factory] Can we assume that /bin/sh is bash?

On czw, mar 14, 2019 at 8:13 AM, Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Stephan Kulow schrieb:
On 3/13/19 1:44 PM, Simon Lees wrote:

Yep and this is the big fat lazy option. Given the quality our
release managers expect of our Tier 1 desktops and even our T2
desktops I don't see how we can include code "That will break in some
cases" in the same category, if your only willing to go to that level
of excellence keep the code in your home repo. Do you think such code
is an acceptable standard for packagehub? personally I don't, and if
its not acceptable for packagehub it should not be acceptable for
Leap or Tumbleweed.

It's up to the packagehub maintainers to define their acceptance level, not on me.
But I don't like the attitude to take freedom away from openSUSE users to break
their systems. Breaking and fixing is basically the core of the fun people take
out of linux.

Would I recommend anyone to switch /bin/sh? Hell, no! I personally would even go as
far and block every alternative in the distribution - but with bash blocking /bin/sh
there is not even a way for experiments without breaking your system integrity.

If we wanted to make it possible to replace /bin/sh without actually
encouraging doing so in the distro I think it would be easier to have
/bin/sh in a separate subpackage. On package level we have better
options to control what goes where and what gets installed by default,
eg by means of Requires in patterns or NON_FTP_PACKAGES.

I feel like it's time to draw a parallel between this and xdm/dm situation,
where everybody has xdm installed for no particular reason :P

LCP [Stasiek]

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