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Re: [opensuse-factory] Tiger VNC
Hi Sinon,

On 3/13/19 9:49 PM, Simon Lees wrote:


On 13/03/2019 20:21, Maurizio Galli (MauG) wrote:
Hi Simon,

On 3/13/19 7:22 AM, Simon Lees wrote:


On 13/03/2019 01:49, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
Hi,

currently Tiger VNC is installed via basic pattern and therefore included in
any oS installation. I'd like to discuss it's inclusion.

1. Tiger VNC looks quite "old fashioned". Is it really necessary to keep this
thing?

2. As Tiger VNC is coming from basic desktop pattern and e.g. the Gtk tool
"Remmina" rooting from the Xfce pattern we have some duplication here. So
removing Tiger VNC would solve that and put the selection of remote desktop
tools up to the respective DE's patterns.

3. This might be a bit unpopular for "the maker's choice" of distributions,
but: Is some remote desktop client needed at all in a default installation?


Well in this case its more then just openSUSE, these patterns are shared with SLE as well which enables us to make the most of each others QA / Testing etc. Having a VNC client installed by default on SLE installs probably makes alot of sense, having said that both tiger and remmina seem to be available on SLE-15 systems so i'll raise it with the SLE product managers and see if they are happy to make the change for tumbleweed / SLE-16, its not something we are likely to change in SLE / Leap 15



If SLE really needs Tiger VNC to be there, could a cross distribution conditional be considered for the Base X11 pattern?

something like:

%if 0%{?sle_version} <= 150000
Recommends: tigervnc
%endif


It would be more like %if !0%{?is_opensuse} which we could do but for the reasons stated above we would prefer to keep the base system the same between both unless we have a really really good reason not to and tigervnc being the whole of 4mb in the context of a desktop system probably isn't a good enough reason, especially without first attempting to make the change in SLE so the base stays unified.


Understood. It's not much of a MB issue but more of having desktop patterns adding their own vnc client creating "duplicates". As mentioned by vinz, Xfce pattern installs Remmina. We will see what to do about that then.
Cheers,

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Maurizio Galli (MauG)
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