As there is already another thread on the same subject that is a lot
more constructive, could we please drop the shenanigans here?
Thank you
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 4:20 PM Rainer Hantsch
Hello.
Am Donnerstag, 17. Jan 2019, 08:46:18 schrieb Haris Sehic:
He said the install system fails to boot, Leap can not be installed, so how obtain data for the bugzilla?
Opening and describing a bug would help the project to have notice about the issue. I agree that having some kind of logs is more then helpful but one could assume we would not have this discussion if users would care more to submit bugs even without logs.
Yes, I shall do this, I shall do that .... Am I the first one on Earth having this issue with installing openSUSE? I am absolutely sure I am NOT.
If you prefer to find a report in bugzilla, YOU are invited now by me to create one. I have my personal experiences with bugzilla, try to prevent it therefore, and prefer to communicate with people directly. (I will not tell more details in this point.)
I think the problem is meanwhile described and known well enough to work on a solution?
Yes, I have also found people complaining of this. They simply installed another distro instead.
And this is legit. Its the community and the project who have to improve.
But this is for sure NOT what will help to get a better ranking in distros - and this should be the most important thing, no? People thinking like you are often the death of wonderful projects (as openSUSE is).
If I'm getting it correctly, bottom down, there is a request to support "newer" hardware. No, an optional downloadable install media with new kernel, not officially supported.
And therefor we are providing obs and kiwi. Writing a howto here is more useful the having this abstract discussion.
Oh, yessss.... I was waiting for this. OBS and KIWI is exactly what a USER (no developer!!!!) needs. Because it is so "easy" to create an entire DVD ISO with it. Such things are good for developers who know this tool very well, but a USER is (including me) overstrained by them.
just my 2 cents
H.
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