Hi In "Systems Activity" I've systemd (plus (sd-pam), dbus_daemon, gvfsd, gvfsd-fuse, dconf-service) still running from a different user. If I end the systemd process in "System Activity", it closes systemd and all the related processes down successfully. I did have these processes running from 2 other users too so i rebooted and logged into one account and then back into this one to see if it still happened, unfortunately it does. I don't know when this started to occur. I can't find any bug logged apart from one from "NEW" one in 2016 about Leap 42.1 not killing all user processes on logout. regards Ian -- opensuse:tumbleweed:20180318 Qt: 5.10.0 KDE Frameworks: 5.43.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.12.3 - kwin 5.12.3 kmail2 5.7.2 - akonadiserver 5.7.2 - Kernel: 4.15.9-1-default - xf86-video-nouveau: 1.0.15 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org