Op zondag 11 maart 2018 07:47:05 CET schreef Basil Chupin:
On 08/03/18 19:01, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Kaigue7 wrote:
Will Leap 15 keep Kernel 4.12 or will it get an upgrade to a more recent kernel once it's launched? Why not use the 4.14 LTS?
As others have pointed out Leap will use whatever SLE uses. The version number is actually not that meaningful as SUSE kernel engineers do a lot of backporting and hardware enablement.
If you have the chance to test Leap 15 please take this kernel under stress. If there are any issues please file bug reports. The majority of Leap kernel bugs are SLE kernel bugs so they have to be taken serious.
I have read what Peter Linnell wrote but still find it difficult to reconcile what he wrote with which kernel ought to be included in Leap 15 when it is released. The reason is that he is stressing why SUSE needs to have the 4.12.x kernel but we are talking about openSUSE which is supposed to be a Community effort and less likely (I am assuming) to be used in a commercial environment unlike SUSE.
The other thing of course is the "fly in the ointment" called Tumbleweed. Tumbleweed at the moment comes with kernel 4.15.7 -- well ahead of even the 4.14 talked about here.
Furthermore, one reads this -- about Leap and Tumbleweed -- when one brings up the openSUSE webpage ( https://software.opensuse.org/ ):
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Both distributions are well tested by openQA as well as by human openSUSE contributors so both can be relied upon to work.
Both distributions are fully capable of being used on a Desktop PC, laptop, server, or in the cloud.
If you are still not sure, download openSUSE Leap
It is easy to switch to openSUSE Tumbleweed if you change your mind later.
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If both distributions (Leap and Tumbleweed) are "well tested by openQA", "Both distributions are fully capable of being used on a Desktop...", "both can be relied upon to work" and with Tumbleweed currently using kernel 4.15.7 then why is Leap 15 going to be "held back", so to speak, by being unleashed on the world with with an "aged" kernel 4.12? :-)
BC
Please Basil, stop. Peter has explain the reasoning behind all this clearly. IMNSHO we should be damned glad with SUSE sharing it's code base with openSUSE, instead of moaning about aged kernels. With all the backports, optimizations and fixes from SUSE, the actual kernel code isn't much different from 4.14 . The nature of Leap has also been explained over and over again. A renewed discussion is, again IMNSHO, absolutely unnecessary and useless. My $ 0.02 -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team Linux user #548252 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org