On Monday, 24 April 2017 23:14:57 BST Simon Lees wrote:
On 04/25/2017 06:56 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 04/24/2017 01:32 PM, Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Monday, 24 April 2017 12:07 Simon Lees wrote:
On 04/24/2017 07:06 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
In a real company/product (like SLE), there would be a PR and sales department preventing from jumping backwards surely. Just because openSUSE does not have these two suddenly makes it ok?
SUSE does have some of those people, I believe they chose to jump from 12 to 15 which is what triggered this change in the first place.
Right. But what openSUSE Board just decided to do is could be rather compared to the hypothetical (I sincerely hope) situation if in a few years our marketing guys said "we did some more research and apparently IT people are not as afraid of 13 and 14 as we thought, let's do SLE13 as next version (i.e. after 15)". Just skipping from 12 to 15 could be rather compared to skipping from 13 to 42.
Michal Kubeček
Sounds like a lot of these problems could have been avoided if SLE simply went for 45 instead of 15. Honestly, that couldn't have been any worse than jumping backwards.
In such cases is almost always better to rename the project, in this case 'Leap' to something else, to signal this major change and avoid confusion. Just like it happened for 13.X and Leap. Because going backwards is a major change and we will have to explain the reasoning for quite a while.
But when we changed the name from openSUSE 13.X to openSUSE Leap it was because the way we develop openSUSE Leap with a SLE base is fundamentally different to the way we developed openSUSE in the past, we haven't changed the way were developing openSUSE here so there really is no reason to remove "Leap" as "Leap 15.X" will still be developed the same way "Leap 42.X" was.
Do you need to keep Leap in the name anymore? It seems unnecessary as opensuse 15.x == opensuse leap 15.x - what is "Leap" for anymore, its totally irrelevant now as most people will call the releases opensuse 15.x. And they will get the message that its inline with SLE. KISS is the solution -- opensuse:tumbleweed:20170420 Qt: 5.7.1 KDE Frameworks: 5.32.0 KDE Plasma: 5.9.4 kwin 5.9.4 kmail2 5.4.3 akonadiserver 5.4.3 Kernel: 4.10.10-1-default Nouveau: 1.0.14_2.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org