On 2017-04-19 00:26, Simon Lees wrote:
If its your first time using Linux ever, without spending 15 minutes googling how do you know which of KDE or Gnome is the right choice? This is where it is hard and where the installer needs to do better (for leap users anyway)
Well, it doesn't matter - any choice is /right/, there is no wrong choice, that's the main point :-)
I tried to raise this as part of the pull request over the redesigned desktop selection screen in YaST (and was shot down there too); I'd suggest we go a step further and feature more of our community- supported desktops (for which we have a number of high quality, well maintained options) that are currently relegated to a 2nd-tier choice.
I'd like to hear a good argument for not giving our XFCE, LXDE, MATE, Cinnamon, Pantheon, Enlightenment, Trinity, etc. communities equal treatment when it comes to desktop selection.
For Leap I think its important that we provide 1-3 choices that are best for new users again to get them setup with something reasonable without overwhelming them with choice, then treating everything else in a equal way (similar to what we have now). For tumbleweed, i think you could make a case for just treating all of them the same, but you could also make a counter case that its better to keep the installer between the 2 approximately the same to make documentation and stuff like openQA more constant.
Some of the entries can be bold, based on popularity, perhaps. I think new users should see from the start that in Linux there are many choices: it is a very important value of our community, specially on openSUSE. And more seasoned users see the advantage of seeing the choices prominently. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)