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Re: [opensuse-factory] new desktop selection for opensuse

In my opinion the role-based selection that SLE has does not fit
openSUSE at all. Instead, I suggest keeping the current appearance
and just change a few things:

Add screenshots:
Large enough to be distinguishable. Also with a longer description
next to it, to make the decision easier.

No "other" selection:
Instead make the view scrollable, the usual GNOME + KDE + Nothing
triplet on top is visible by default. IMO that's more fair.
Also, it makes it possible to add *all* desktops we currently
ship in the official repos (which only makes sense for the NET
install and for the DVD with online repos active).

No "Choose Patterns" button:
Instead, "Minimal System" (always on the bottom, it's for experts)
can be selected and the package selection edited later.
Otherwise there are two ways of achieving the same result, which
is IMO misleading.

Add version information, if possible:
Currently there is no easy way to get that information except
looking at the packages directly or installing the system...


Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2017, 14:21:14 CET schrieb Roman Bysh:
On 10/02/17 02:57 AM, Josef Reidinger wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 02:48:48 +0100
"Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On 2017-02-09 18:03, Daniele wrote:
Il 09/02/2017 12:23, Josef Reidinger ha scritto:
Hi Factory users and developers, I am working on providing a new
desktop selection dialog in installation as specified in . So after some
tweaking and thinking I use roles functionality dialog we already
had in SLES, just with desktop selection. It will allows us in
future more potential tuning for specified desktops.

You can see result in (
screenshots and videos ). What do you think about it? I welcome
any feedback. I add there to comparison also old work-flow where
is one screen with online repos which we currently integrate in
desktop selection.

Thanks for any feedback


HI, I don't like the "role" word for a desktop selection.

IMHO, Gnome/kde -> same role with different DE.

Thanks for feedback.

Likewise, I do not understand why using the word "role".

So what you suggest as better name? or do you agree with simon
suggestion lower, to use Desktop(GNOME) and Desktop(KDE) as role?

Also, it is not clear what happens when clicking "custom". Will I have
to play with choosing the appropriate patterns, or will there be a
simple tick to choose XFCE, LXDE, minimal X, etc?

I hope it is clear from video. You pick pattern there which fits your
needs. It is targeted for slightly more experienced users, that know
what they want ( in video I choose LXDE if I remember correctly ) and
it is pattern based, so it allows easy future addition of additional

Another behaviour that should be allowed would be choosing both KDE
and Gnome (and more) right at the first install (without going to

I worry that it would confuse users even more. E.g. which desktop
manager to pick? what will be default? and some others together do not
make much sense, like text based server and kde together.


Under Custom, can you please add Cinnamon. Ever since Linux Mint introduced
Cinnamon it has been a very popular DE selection.


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