more than 5 hours trying success after success on same machine in 13.1 13.2 42.1 Mageia 5 Only in Mageia was sound actually easy to configure (via MCC). 42.1 was only slightly harder (via YaST2). 13.2 was quite hard, required replacing phonon-backend-vlc with phonon-backend-gstreamer. 13.1 wouldn't work either, seemed to have same only temporarily and only in yast2 behavior/obstacle as TW until after replacing phonon-backend-vlc with phonon-backend-gstreamer and a reboot. I tried TW for a while without Packman enabled, later enabled it to try to install SMPlayer and VLC. At first I excluded all *pulse*. In desktop settings -> phonon audio & video, the only sound device listed is default, no mention of any intel device as in other releases or yast2. Deleting Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) and re-adding it either quick or normal in YaST2 always produces sound when configuring, but it doesn't survive reboot, and never works in K*5 or SMPlayer. Eventually I tried advanced, including a click on reset, instead of quick or normal, and it has stuck so far through two reboots. One possible clue: nothing providess libdbus-1.so.3(LIBDBUS_1_3)(64bit) needed by vlc-noX-2.2.1-299.1.x86_64, which remains even after getting KDE to produce sound. SMPlayer still plays video only. :~( https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Audio_troubleshooting is ancient. Selected rpms installed: alsa-1.1.0-1.1.x86_64 alsa-firmware-1.0.29-1.1.noarch alsa-oss-1.0.28-3.3.x86_64 alsa-plugins-1.1.0-1.1.x86_64 alsa-plugins-pulse-1.1.0-1.1.x86_64 alsa-utils-1.1.0-1.2.x86_64 dbus-1-1.8.20-1.1.x86_64 dbus-1-glib-0.104-1.2.x86_64 dbus-1-python-1.2.0-6.5.x86_64 dbus-1-python3-1.2.0-6.5.x86_64 dbus-1-x11-1.8.20-1.1.x86_64 gstreamer-0_10-0.10.36-18.3.x86_64 gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-0.10.36-13.1.x86_64 gstreamer-1.6.1-1.1.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-1.6.1-1.1.x86_64 kdbusaddons-tools-5.16.0-1.1.x86_64 libdbus-1-3-1.8.20-1.1.x86_64 libdbus-1-3-32bit-1.8.20-1.1.x86_64 libdbusmenu-qt2-0.9.2+14.04.20131209-3.3.x86_64 libdbusmenu-qt5-2-0.9.3+15.10.20150604-1.1.x86_64 libgstreamer-0_10-0-0.10.36-18.3.x86_64 libgstreamer-1_0-0-1.6.1-1.1.x86_64 libpulse0-7.1-1.1.x86_64 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-7.1-1.1.x86_64 phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.8.2-2.1.x86_64 pulseaudio-7.1-1.1.x86_64 ruby2.1-rubygem-ruby-dbus-0.11.0-4.3.x86_64 ruby2.2-rubygem-ruby-dbus-0.11.0-4.3.x86_64 system-config-printer-dbus-service-1.5.7-5.1.noarch -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/