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Re: [opensuse-factory] leap42 - minimum server pattern has become too minimum
Am 23.10.2015 um 12:21 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 10:44 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
In Milestone 2 it still worked well, but now we don't even install
YaST.
I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.

I'm not sure 'ridiculous' is a valid choice of word here... consider
the various usecases for the minimum server pattern:

* Install a server (obvious)
There, it's arguable if you need yast or not... most serious server
setups will be using other management tools (puppet et.al)

But yast won't hurt and certainly is useful.

* Install a container (nspawn, docker)
Yast is just a bloat in there... does not make any sense at all.

But why whould someone who installs a container use as "server" pattern
anyway?

Instead of having a pattern that pulls in all the 'garbage' nobody
needs in those environments, the minimum pattern targets to get those
things up and running, allowing you to extend what you need. That's
much easier to achieve than hunting down things you don't want in these
setups and trying to eliminate them.

Mind you: the patter is called "Minimum Server Pattern". Minimum sort-
of implies that bloat should be left out.

No, it implies it's for servers.

Just call it "Minimal Pattern".
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Stefan Seyfried

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