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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: leap42 - minimum server pattern has become too minimum
Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:

Me, seeing the wording "minimal server" would expect it to have more
things. Certainly YaST, in text mode at least. Dunno, maybe it is
easier to run a command to add yast than it is to remove it :-?

Yes, it is easily added or installed later, but many things are. What I
dislike is such a significant change without discussion before or
after - until now.

It looks like someone just went in and did the changes willy-nilly,
without considering the wider impact. This person saw fit to remove
YaST, but forgot to remove <list of surplus packages> that I posted
earlier. Lazy, mind boggling and irresponsible.

There _is_ room for discussing the purpose and contents of the "minimum
server pattern". Dominique sort of proposed it is meant for "serious
server setups", but imo it certainly isn't suited for that either. It
doesn't even include puppet or CFengine :-)

I'd vote for a minimal pattern which just boots the OS.
The term "JEOS" is already used which also might be a suitable pattern name.

For mass deployment with configuration management this could be used by admins
as a base for PXE installation boot. After that only the favourite config mgmt
system has to be installed and it will take over for the rest.

Ciao, Michael.


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