El 13/08/14 a las #4, Tomas Cech escribió:
Hi people,
to get some better overview about our systemd opinions, mainly, to quantify it I created a poll:
https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/sleep_walker/45294/do-we-want-to-...
To whoever thinks this is a good idea (it is not) could you kindly answer the following questions ? - What you will use to replace logind ? (and who is going to maintain that replacement...) - What you will use when udev stops working without systemd ? - What you will use as a cgroup writer process ? (google: "single cgroup writer") - How you will convince various upstreams including but not limited to several freedesktop key components, plasma on wayland, gnome-session (?) to accept all the needed code that this effort necessarily entails ? - In the future.. what you will use to replace ..let's say.. avahi (aka. systemd-resolved) ? I can use the rest of the evening writing a longer list of questions and detailing why this is a DOA idea for which you will find no support where it matters but I will just leave it there. This ship sailed already and is in the middle of the ocean.. so if you want to be constructive (I doubt that.. but hey.. I might be wrong) you can start now by: Pointing exactly what your actual, verifiable problems with systemd are and by that I do not mean vague, philosophical complains. They are much more likely to be solved if: * you post them to the systemd mailing list where it can get attention of the relevant people. * Bonus points if you are absolutely sure it is a systemd problem and have taking the time to understand *why* and *how* things work the way they do. Example on what will work: - "I want to do X, but it systemd-Yprocess crashes" - "I need X, but there is no option to do so." - "The journal is slow and uses X,Y amount of CPU and RAM" (this is a known, multi-faced problem that some people have reported that needs to be fixed) -- Cristian "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org