On 2014-08-11 15:13 (GMT+0200) Josef Reidinger composed:
Our goal for yast2-bootloader is to have tool that create working boot configuration for everyone ( everyone from technical side of view, for different storage configuration and different hardware, not to support all personal requirements ).
I don't see "working ... for everyone" as realistic as long as upstream policy remains in conflict with neutral MBR policy. Choosing to install to a partition with Grub2 as neutral MBR necessarily requires carries unavoidable frightening warnings that non-astute users should not have to ever be confronted by. Yast may be able to shield users from such warnings, but only when Yast is actually available at those all too frequent repair times that show up in support forums.
So I would like to ask if anyone have troubles with grub2, that grub2 cannot be used for his hardware or storage setup, so we can handle it before I did it.
I can't comprehensively answer that, because I refuse to use Grub2 on openSUSE installations. What I can say is those messages produced by Grub2 when vga= is included on cmdline and when installing Grub2 to a partition are themselves troubling just to have to see. As long as vga= does what it needs to do, no one should have to be warned about its deprecation on every boot. The only installations here that have Grub2 installed are my few *buntus, all of which either get chainloaded to (producing ugly ttys and boot messages), or get booted via a(n openSUSE) Grub Legacy on a non-root/non-boot partition (with sometimes better tty results, depending on the actual installation configuration). All other distros that have no Grub Legacy installation option get installed sans bootloader. That's not a problem on my own systems, just a nuisance that already means fewer test installations of Factory will get done here. What it does mean is I have to seriously consider looking elsewhere for installations I do on others' computers. For the foreseeable post-13.1 support future that appears would be Mageia, which has already been my second choice distro for some time, and still last I checked by installing Cauldron defaults to Grub Legacy instead of Grub2. The radical differences between the two Grubs make it easy to understand the desire to divorce maintenance of them both under the same package umbrella. I can only wish there will be found a maintainer for a separated Grub Legacy Yast bootloader package. Long term, UEFI will replace BIOS booting. In that world, I don't see the complicated and less friendly relative monster that is the Grub2 some of us now know making better sense to keep in distro and sync'd to Yast for the few remaining functional BIOS systems than Grub Legacy. Let it not remain unsaid that a substantial change like this ought to be made early as possible in a development cycle, not on the cusp of base system freeze. Now is a wrong time to do it, if it must be done at all. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org