On 2014-06-23 15:43 (GMT+0200) Stephan Kulow composed:
And for this I need your help: why did you switch to Factory or why do you consider it? What are the selling points of Factory? What killer features are in Factory that we don't have in 13.1?
I never "switched", and don't expect to. I get used to using a release before release by using Factory on multiple test systems on an ad hoc basis. Once I've decided a release is a workable replacement/substitute, I consider replacing the oldest of three bootable installations on my 24/7 system with it, but not before approach to or even passing EOL on the release in 24/7 use. So, #1 reason to use Factory is preparation for upgrade from release going or gone out of support. #2 is for catching devs with their hot rod latest and greatest systems breaking and slothing older hardware with their evolutionary "improvements", outright rewrites, and foundational subsystem replacements; to keep release-next suitable for people who upgrade their puters' OSes purely: 1-to maintain reasonable security, & 2-to maintain access to all important features of the continuously evolving Internet, and not need to spend money on new hardware or unnecessarily pollute landfills further to do it. #3 is for checking whether "upstream" "fixes" for bugs in release-latest (or older) have occurred, and if they have, if they work as claimed. I count on the OBS contributions from others for this, since as a non-programmer I do not build, or clutter my HD with tools for building. I don't see the new rolling release "Factory" being as useful to me as the old, and I can't picture myself able to make nearly as much contribution to the openSUSE development & QA process with it. Maybe the latter won't be needed so much anyway in the new role. Up until this post-13.1 rework of Factory, it fit the naming pattern of at least two other somewhat similar distro's development processes: Fedora (and at least to some extent RHEL) begat by Rawhide Mageia begat by Cauldron openSUSE (and SLEx) begat by Factory As a rolling distribution, the name "Factory" would no longer fit logically in the pattern, or seem like an appropriate name on its own. When a factory releases a product, subject to the possibility of recall, it's out the door, done. When a factory makes more than nominal changes to products coming off its lines, generally they either get new names, and/or new model and/or part numbers. Minor changes generally are compatible with recently produced products, making its components suitable as replacement parts for those already out the door. IOW, I think a rolling release should have some other name than Factory, maybe moving the name "Factory" to take the place of OBS, where the real (downline, with upstreams being uplines) manufacturing is actually going on.
[1] The etherpad has 8 authors and it's just a draft :) [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Release#True-rolling_distributions
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