Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (458 mails)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Timeline and roadmap V2
On 02/02/2014 05:45 PM, Greg KH wrote:

Anyway, you all are free to go do whatever you want, as a group that
works within Novell/SuSE as that is your money and manpower to spend.

Yup, I agree. The openSUSE Team certainly has the right just like any other team (GNOME, KDE, etc.) to decide what they are going to work on. The unfortunate part is that over the years the heavy lifting of the release process has mostly migrated to this team and the more or less abrupt decision to stop doing the heavy lifting puts a large burden on everyone else.

But this also implies that we have an opportunity. The rest of us, that are part time contributors have the chance to stand up and release on our 8 month release cycle, that would put 13.2 in July. All we have to do is figure out how to distribute the work. Whether or not we are prepared to carry that load is what I was trying to find out in the "Releases going forward" thread on this list.

Most people responding there were OK with a change to a 12 month release cycle and nobody stepped up to claim a part of the work to get a July release out the door. Yes, I was off by 2, a rather uncommon addition error in development but hey every one know I cannot count ;) .

But remember, you are just a "normal" member of the community like the
rest of us, so to somehow dictate what is going to happen to others and
their jobs (i.e. no more maintenance, longer release cycles putting more
pressure and work on Tumbleweed maintainers, etc.) be expected to be
told to go shove off.

While I am utterly disappointed in the way this is coming about at the same time I am unfortunately coming closer to the realization that Stephan has been right all along in saying "nobody cares for factory". By extension this implies nobody cares for the next release.

So if we, those that maintain packages in factory and the released distribution care about the 8 month release cycle there is nothing stopping us from doing the work and getting a release out in July. If we are not willing to do the work then those who do the work get to decide, no matter how much everyone else complains. It happens that those that have been doing the work have decided on a 12 month release with 13.2 in November.

It doesn't have to be that way, the rest of us can certainly release 13.2 in July if we care to do so. The question is, do we care enough and are we wiling to put in the effort? I offered the part I would be willing to take over, no one else has piped up.


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