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[opensuse-factory] Re: Re: Re: RFC: move ifconfig and friends out of default installation
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:02, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote:

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
/usr/bin/ipg - anybody ever used this reasonably?
/usr/bin/ping
/usr/bin/ping6
/usr/sbin/arping - IMO superseded by T.H.'s arping2 which has more functionality
/usr/sbin/clockdiff
/usr/sbin/ifenslave - replaced by bonding's sysfs interface
/usr/sbin/in.rdisc - Solaris compatibility thing
/usr/sbin/tracepath - we have traceroute, mtr, ...
/usr/sbin/tracepath6

Don't cut essential tools without providing a superior replacement.
Things like traceroute and ping are essential for troubleshooting
network problems.

The Talk here is NOT about a full drop, but about a split out of default
(no specail select) install, while still available on the install media
and main-distro-repo. Just reducing the installed clutter and crud.

For that we have to make sure that:
A: no script / program uses these tools internal without declaring them
B: make noise about the replacements.

The replacement for ifconfig was already debated in this thread.

If some one misses a functionality, please give a example what exact
is missing. (e.g. tell about program and output / function that would
be missing)

To repeat: this is about default install, not a drop from repo.

- Yamaban
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