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[opensuse-factory] Rolling Release [was: Suspend problems on Tumbleweed]
  • From: Axel Braun <axel.braun@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:57:15 +0100
  • Message-id: <3727011.2rDTSu7YC6@southpole.axxite.internal>
Am Freitag, 22. November 2013, 09:29:31 schrieb Greg KH:

Tumbleweed empty = Reset to 13.1?
Then it is indeed still not a rolling release. :-(

It rolled forward to 13.1, which seems like the definition of a rolling
release to me...

As long as Tumbleweed does not contain more actual packages than factory
at
release, resp. the newly released version, this is OK. But mostly this is
the case, so we get a downgrade of most packages.

I was using Tumbleweed on 12.1 (or was it 12.2?), and the release of a new
version of openSUSE forced a downgrade of most packages, including several
issues. So I went for a new installation, and kept away from Tumbleweed

"most" packages? What ones specifically? git and the kernel and vim
were the only ones that I knew of that this happened to.

After nearly two years I cant remember anymore, sorry.

And it will continue to happen, as Tumbleweed does pick up newer
versions for some packages than the "release" has in them, due to when
the release is "frozen" in time. That's just how the build process
goes.

And this is OK! But was probably not always the case, because the 'reset' to
the older version of the release compared to the newer version of Tumbleweed
caused the problem.

So as long as the newer Tumbleweed packages compile against the updated (12.3
->13.1) standard repository packages, but keep the newer Tumbleweed-release,
then everything should be fine. Then we have a rolling release.

On the other hand, I would love to have an early stable upgrade, e.g. to
come around the nasty suspend bug, that turns my laptop into an
electrical heater (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=826945),
which is still existing in the current kernel version of 12.3.

But I feel the process on release change needs some tuning. If it works in
the current version, I would be happy to hear.

It works for me, specifics on how it doesn't work for you, or anyone
else, would be appreciated.

Fine, I will give it a try!

Thanks for your effort
Axel
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