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Re: [opensuse-factory] Suspend problems on Tumbleweed
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 09:03:42AM +0100, Axel Braun wrote:
Hello Greg,

Am Mittwoch, 20. November 2013, 09:28:50 schrieben Sie:

Now that Tumbleweed is empty, please try out 13.1 and see if the issue
is there or not. If it is, please file a bug at

Tumbleweed empty = Reset to 13.1?
Then it is indeed still not a rolling release. :-(

It rolled forward to 13.1, which seems like the definition of a rolling
release to me...

As long as Tumbleweed does not contain more actual packages than factory at
release, resp. the newly released version, this is OK. But mostly this is the
case, so we get a downgrade of most packages.

I was using Tumbleweed on 12.1 (or was it 12.2?), and the release of a new
version of openSUSE forced a downgrade of most packages, including several
issues. So I went for a new installation, and kept away from Tumbleweed

"most" packages? What ones specifically? git and the kernel and vim
were the only ones that I knew of that this happened to.

And it will continue to happen, as Tumbleweed does pick up newer
versions for some packages than the "release" has in them, due to when
the release is "frozen" in time. That's just how the build process

If you can think of a better way to manage all of this, please let me

On the other hand, I would love to have an early stable upgrade, e.g. to come
around the nasty suspend bug, that turns my laptop into an electrical heater
(, which is still existing
in the current kernel version of 12.3.

But I feel the process on release change needs some tuning. If it works in
current version, I would be happy to hear.

It works for me, specifics on how it doesn't work for you, or anyone
else, would be appreciated.


greg k-h
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