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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: journalctl very slow
В Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:03:09 -0300
Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@xxxxxxxxxxxx> пишет:

El 01/11/13 13:03, Archie Cobbs escribió:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Yamaban <foerster@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
But, yes, clear upstream trouble, that is: ignored by those in charge,
sounds of '... rotating media are a dying type ...' where made, when
asked on the topic during a Linux conf earlier this year.

Do not hope for a solution from the systemd / journald side, install
a full 'traditional' syslog.

Maybe this should be the openSUSE default.

I for one am very bothered by the way systemd has made logging more
opaque and cumbersome. Logs are like bread and water to sysadmins.

If you install a traditional syslog implementation there will be no

Then it should be default setting in openSUSE until problem with
journald slowness is fixed, should not it?

also people keep repeating "opaqueness and cumbersomeness"
but never care to elaborate exactly what they mean in a detailed form
and compared to what.

That said, embedded developers from Samsung and Intel do care about this
slowness and are working on it (much better approach than whining and
complaining I must add)

The question was "why it became default when it had obvious problems";
do not pretend you do not see the difference. It is not about
development of code, it is about selecting distribution default
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