On 10/31/2013 10:44 PM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Hi,
I would say that this flame is now pointless.
Dunno how useful it is w/o the legend, but attached is the SVG graph of this conversation. It started out because people couldn't tolerate HTML, which has been around for near 20+ years, because it caused too much change. Then the same people who can't handle something 20 years old, come along and switch to systemd which is .. at most a year or two and certainly not that long since it's first official release (if its had one yet). The flame as you call it was about people claiming they can't change, yet systemd clearly shows that this is wrong. It's more change over a shorter period of time with less compatibiltiy to anything, and yet all the movers and shakers of this list have jumped on its bandwagon -- yet those same people can't tolerate or accept HTML because it's too much change? I think people missed the point. I really had no delusions that anything I said about systemd would make any difference, yet, how can people adopt something like that that has all its faults and incompatibilities (despite it's good features!), yet protest so loudly over html? It just doesn't make sense. And I agree w/the rest of what you said about doing my own thing if it so important. I am doing my own thing.. but whether or not I'll ever productize it is unknown though unlikely. It took me nearly 6 years just to release a module to print things on CPAN, because I kept tweaking it and testing it.. I'm way to demanding/exacting to feel comfortable releasing most things... But then, that's why I'm constantly amazed at what passes for released SW (speaking in general, not about anything OpnSuse specific, to be clear), w/ much of it being Beta quality... so I'd assume I wasn't going to do something until it's done.