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Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Apper to survive (12.2)
Am Montag, 20. August 2012, 21:16:53 schrieb Rajko:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:39:50 +0200

"Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
apper and friends as far a I know update from any repo in a mix. It
doesn't matter what vendor they come from.

Just checked:

"zypper up" and update with Appper give the same package set.

To see about vendors and vendor change I used "zypper -vv up" and there
was few different vendors, but no vendor change.

What kills systems is arbitrary vendor change, where system is updated
with files that have higher version number, but in reality it is older
software, or software compiled with different compilation options that
are incompatible with the rest of the system.

The equivalent of zypper lu. You can even hide those "normal" updates and make
the zypp back-end only deliver the patches to PackageKit and its front-ends by
altering the zypp conf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637764#c18

In other words the most recent version of Apper:
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Version 0.7.2
Using KDE Development Platform 4.9.00 "release 559"
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doesn't allow vendor change, and it will not kill user system.

You forget the magic others experienced! For them apper (the messenger) could
rule PackageKit and that mighty king ruled the zypp back-end god which in turn
also ignored its settings form the conf files and delivered a package list to
PackageKit which included vendor-change updates and lots more of system-
breaking apps.

Those that experienced that magic strongly believe in it being the reality and
do not even acknowledge facts put in front of their nose. For them it has
become a religious thing and they are unable to simply say: sorry, I was wrong
about x. Instead they retreat to "but y is true and thus I was right" or
simply continue to believe in magic apper, the ruler of all package management
rather than the simple messenger of information given to it.

Their wilful ignorance is priceless.

Sven
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