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Re: Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Apper to survive (12.2)
  • From: Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:55:56 +0200
  • Message-id: <5178288.UcsotKvkIh@linux-ly0d>
Am Montag, 20. August 2012, 19:17:21 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2012-08-20 17:59, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Montag, 20. August 2012, 17:24:56 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
The result of this combination is a broken system.

That only confirms that you can break your system with zypper up or YaST
as well and there is nothing special to apper or packagekit.

Yes, there is: they respect vendor.

Didn't you read the previous mails? the zypp-backend to pk and hence apper
does as well. But zypper and YaST do allow you to change it, apper doesn't. So
which one prevents vendor change better?

and yast default update application,

Wrong. It depends on the repo you pick and you can even list all packages
fromall repos.

YOU, will not apply updates from any repo but one.

Never challenged that.

That argument misses the point. Simply because a) most of the times there
is no admin and not more than one user per system, i.e. typical home

In a typical home the computer may be used by more than one person.

_May_ (decreases the relevance) and _may_ use it at the same time (decreases
it even further) and knows the root password but should not be allowed to
install updates… How close to zero relevance are we with the permissions

b) if there is an admin he already has the means to disable/configure via
policykit etc. per user.

Don't make me laugh. Where is the easy GUI for adjusting policykit?

In KDE's systemsettings for example, all you need is a mouse and the ability
to read. And what kind of admin needs a GUI anyway or is not competent enough
to flip some switches but calls himself admin nonetheless? Your argumentation
is not consistent.

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