On 09.11.2011 06:21, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/11/08 23:23 (GMT-0500) Ken Schneider - openSUSE composed:
You just do not get it! openSuSE is provided with a specified set of packages that need to be from the "official repos" _only_ AND package dependencies need to be adhered to. If the person installing the distro doesn't want to follow these simple guidelines then they are on their own. There is no magic here.
What guidelines? Where is it written that if I want X installed I have to have a GUI running before X is running? I've yet to encounter a GUI
You don't have to. You can get perfectly splash free boot without uninstalling gfxboot and bootsplash. The problem is, that by blocking those packages, through the mechanism of package dependencies, you are blocking much more, necessary packages and those make your system fail. Now reducing those package dependencies might be a worthwile goal. But it is a lot of work. And the strange bugs coming from missing packages are hard to fix. I know, because I always update my systems with the "--no-recommends" switch and later find, that I'm actually missing the new features, simply because the package was just recommended and not strictly necessary. But I do not blame the developers or packagers, because I got what I asked for. Especially it is a lot of work to save a few MB of disk space - nothing else. I am not going to help with that.
init process that's appealing, much less usable. They all either use too little of the available space, or use low contrast, or tiny text (or no text),
Holy crap. Just use "CONSOLE_FONT=ter-v32n.psfu" and I get nice 80x25 on my 1280x800 native screen. Even better readable than "vga=0" ugly scaled fonts.
or most of the above and/or other problems that don't come to mind ATM. I insist on seeing as much as possible of what's going on during init, nice and legible, un-obfuscated by splashes of sickly colors[1]. Is that really too much to ask of any distro?
And why would you need to uninstall bootsplash to achieve that? anyway, the dependencies of *splash* are pretty minimal and it is easy to uninstall them. Your problem was probably, that by tabooing them and later wrongly resolving the package dependencies, you missed much more than just the splash and branding packages. If I would have wanted to do what you did, I would simply first have selected all the -branding-upstream and then deselected the -branding-openSUSE packages and I'm pretty sure no single dependency problem would have popped up. -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org