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On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Felix Miata
On 2011/09/12 15:00 (GMT-0400) Brian K. White composed:
By now the only thing science claims to "know" is that that probably nothing we use as mental place-holders right now will turn out to be the whole real story later.
That so-called "knowledge" too is still mere hypothesis...
....literally anything _might_ be true in an infinite and unknowable universe...
..."demonstrate" is a technical term which requires employing the scientific method
Not every scientific method has yet been discovered or recognized as such. Some demonstrations witnessed by many, recorded in writing, many have chosen to disbelieve at least in part because they didn't witness personally.
Had you espoused your anti-religion beliefs among the 'deluded' Americans responsible for creation of and who signed the United States Declaration of Independence, which reads in part "We hold these truths to be self-evident...that they are endowed by their Creator...", or those who penned the language of the First Amendment to the Constitution, which reads in part "Congress shall make no law ... [religion], or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", assuredly it would have been you dismissed as ridiculous or idiot.
Many intelligent people find spontaneous life generation from inorganic matter evolving into human beings with ability have opinions and communicate them to other humans via writing, and to humans and other species via speech and gestures, and to have discovered that chromosomes 220 million base pairs long exist, and what any of them do, to be more ludicrous than creation by a Creator with power and knowledge far greater than feeble human brains can fathom.
I for one find evolution from non-living matter all the way to thinking and reasoning humans, and for the Earth to have remained in appropriate relation to the Sun long enough for that to take place, to be the most preposterous supposition implied within this thread.
That we can think and communicate, and that gravity exists to keep us on the ground and the Earth in that narrow life-supporting band of distance encircling the Sun, and that plants extract from soil those nutrients to convert via energy from sunlight to the food our bodies need to sustain, are to me daily demonstration and proof of a higher power, a Creator, which I believe to be the God of the Bible, a belief which was shared by most of the creators of the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the longest lived existing government on this planet. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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