On 7/4/2011 3:30 AM, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le lundi 04 juillet 2011, à 00:10 -0700, Linda Walsh a écrit :
What benefit is systemd going to give me that will be worth _any_ hassles.
The systemd benefits have already been explained in several threads, that are archived. As well as a current set of integration issues.
Can we please stop discussing the same thing again and again? This makes this mailing list much less useful than it should be.
Despite your personal lack of interest in the topic, the problem hasn't magically gone away, so I think it only makes perfect sense that neither has the complaining and demand for better answers than "all other apps are broken and all system configurations that would be broken are themselves broken" Any init replacement for a "professional" "polished" distro like suse should _start_ with a mode in which it behaves exactly like current init so that it can be dropped into an existing system without breaking anything, and admins can set up new systems using existing working recipes without problems or unpleasant surprise factor. Expecting everyone to change their systems to match some arbitrary aesthetic is a great way to tick off the most seasoned admins who will say to themselves "If I have to do that much changing of my infrastructure, or if I have to figure out brute force ways to keep a sysv style init and deviate much from a stiock, supported/supportable install, either way, why do I still even care about running suse vs any other distro? I might as well run _any_ distro if I have to do that much low level stuff myself, and under those terms, other distros offer various advantages. I was only running suse in the first place primarily because once up on a time and for quite some time, it took pains to protect me from the typical chaos of life on linux as much as possible while still keeping reasonably current. It's impossible to do that as well as the older commercial unix's did, but suse did so better than other distro's. If that's no longer true, then of what value is suse any more?" -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org