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Re: [opensuse-factory] The road to systemd for openSUSE 12.1
  • From: Guido Berhoerster <gber@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:27:23 +0200
  • Message-id: <20110616132723.GB2596@wopr.local.invalid>
* Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@xxxxxxx> [2011-06-16 14:46]:
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 14:23 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 16 June 2011 14:04:47 Will Stephenson wrote:
3) What are the big gaps that it doesn't currently do, compared to
I hear of things like encrypted LVM volumes not working being dismissed as
I'll start you off with "password agents to do interactive things during
service startup, eg openvpn passwords" (bnc675406):

read-only /usr mounts I believe were dismissed as unimportant as well

They can't work reliably, and never worked reliably for any non-trivial
setup. They did not in the recent past, and never will in the future.
Anybody who still claims that hasn't look into any of the
non-interesting details of the current reality.

We just require that /usr is mounted from initramfs, when systemd is
started, nobody cares where /usr comes from or if its writable.

The time where we boot up with only 30% of the system available, start
stuff referencing /usr and silently fail, but pretending stuff will
still work, is now over.

What about NFS-mounted /usr? I actually fixed some minor problems
with sysvinitscripts and made sure it worked when it came up last
time on this list that /usr over NFS was "broken".
Guido Berhoerster
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