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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] The road to systemd for openSUSE 12.1
  • From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:57:43 +0200
  • Message-id: <1308131864.1488.20.camel@mop>
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 11:48 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
Le mercredi 15 juin 2011 à 09:08 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger a écrit :

So if I'm installing a web server machine with apache, it will boot
quickly, but the first access to the server will take almost forever
because nobody connected to port 80 before and thus apache wasn't
started? Or does "use only what you need when you need it" not apply
here (and if not, why)?

Socket activation is mainly used to simplify service startup and to
avoid to express any dependencies, and not about on-demand start.

The other example of socket activation is package upgrades. When pid 1
keeps the socket established, you can replace packages without ever
losing any new connection.

Udev on systemd-boots already works that way. You can kill the udev
daemon, and the next kernel event will just start it again. It has not
much to do with on-demand starting in the sense of

With systemd you can even replace services like syslogd with a different
implementation without ever losing a single message.

Services are also automatically restarted if a service crashes, without
losing any new message submitted during the time the service was not
available. Clients will never see connection refused.

These are mostly features enterprise users asked for, and what no other
init can really provide or work around.


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