On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Greg KH
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:10:01PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM, jdd
wrote: Le 14/05/2011 18:48, Greg Freemyer a écrit :
I'm new to rolling updates, but if one of the eventual targets of Tumbleweed is servers, there needs to be way to roll a consistent set of updates to first a test server, and then to production servers.
I wouldn't use Tumblweed for servers, but evergreen (but may be I'm wrong)
From my understanding, a lot of people run Arch on servers because they prefer a slow continuous upgrade process instead of a big upgrade every year or two.
I don't know if the long term goal of Tumbleweed is to support that model or not.
Yes it is, and I use it that way, but again, using Arch you don't get a "consistant set of updates" either, just like Gentoo or Debian unstable.
Although you can set up a test and roll-out method that creates this, just like you have to do for the other distros, it's not "built in" unlike the "enterprise" distros that are offered by SUSE and Red Hat.
Again, different models for different usages and people.
thanks,
greg k-h
I got my RHCE a few years back, so maybe I'm spoiled as to what to expect. I can't say I've used SLES in a Data Center much. And when I did as consultant for Ford, they did the OS admin stuff internal to the data center support team. Back to the small office type user. If a small office with 3 or 4 servers is eventually a Tumbleweed target, then a way to accomplish a consistent rollout to a test box, and then a week or two later rollout to "production" boxes should at a minimum be well documented. I think David Rankin on the users list has written up some procedures for how to pull a set of rpms to a local repo server, and then have it serve those rpms out to other local boxes. I recall the instructions seeming fairly complex, but at least they looked reproducible. If and when Tumbleweed has matured enough to target that use case, I hope those instructions or similar can be incorporated into the Tumbleweed doc set. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org