The oldest system I have with 11.4 or newer is P3 f6 m8 s1 700MHz with PAE on a 440BX chipset (Tyan s1846). 10.2 with 2.6.18 kernel when init 0 from root powers down the system. With the 2.6.37 & 2.6.38 kernels on Tumbleweed & Factory, the init 0 process just stops after sending all processes the KILL signal. Turn off computer from KDM fails similarly. No menu.lst stanzas on any use *apic* or *apm* on cmdline. I don't recall my other systems with 11.4 or newer doing this, but they're all K7 or P4. What's up? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org