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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Announcing important changes in the distribution
  • From: Sid Boyce <sboyce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:11:26 +0000
  • Message-id: <4B1B04BE.3030901@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 05/12/09 09:13, Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
2009/12/4 Richard Creighton <ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Friday 04 December 2009 13:01:32 jdd wrote:

read only mailing list, IE openSUSE-announce

Right..and the announcement should include information where any discussion
is
ON-TOPIC and the way to subscribe to that list if not currently receiving
that
list. Probably most such announcements should be discussed on <opensuse> or
a special <users-discussion> set up for just that topic, or in some cases,
<opensuse-factory> where the announcement mostly affects developers or
current
beta testers. The original announcement should also be crossposted to the
designated discussion list as a discussion seed thread.

I think there should be annoucements about the direction distro is
heading in. It is important to inform the general user base about :

1) Discontinued packages & programs
2) New features in next release
3) Compatability issues & areas need attentive testing

This info, helps to keep ppl involved, interested in testing new
release at an earlier stage, and would create some structure ie plan
to drop packages should occur early in cycle.

A maximum of bi-monthly round up "Way Ahead Announcement" , as next
release takes shape; possibly only 2, in the 8 month-ish release cycle
we decided on. But they must not be so late that a "fait a compli" is
presented with no time for adjustments due to release schedule.

To inform the maximum number of ppl, then opensuse-announce & forum
Announcement ought be made. The mail list opensuse is NOT the place
for follow up discussion, it is an over high bandwidth list, mainly
support related.

Special interest lists, like Factory, kernel etc Can have
discussions, and the annoucement can then inform rest of user base.
They are also not the place, for discussion and gripes on that
information, they DO NOT want the general user base flooding those
lists.

So an announcements-discuss seems logical, if something decided by
special interest group proves too contentioius, then management needs
to step in and some more consideration be made, by the special
interests to cater to the general user base's needs.

Rob

Though I can see a certain wisdom in doing so, I'm also thinking of the
fallout - instead of doing development, a significant amount of time
could be spent dealing with copious numbers of questions and the to and
fro arguments. This would tend to reinvent the same arguments as have
been had within the developers' groups.
Chances development gets stuck in the sidings and all we do is argue
interminably, so someone has to lay down a marker somewhere, like
discussion close off dates via email to lists - let's call it EODD (End
Of Discussion Date).
Regards
Sid.
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