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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE and Ubuntu's BulletBroof X
  • From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:34:02 +0200 (CEST)
  • Message-id: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0809211622350.18331@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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The Sunday 2008-09-21 at 14:55 +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > I'd prefer being asked before launching sax2.
> > Why? With what I wrote, you can still cancel it easily and have no
> changes applied anywhere. Unknowing users are right in the mode where
> they can correct the problem by usually just click something like "use
> this proposed configuration" or however it's worded and it launches up
> their usual graphical system right away. _That_ is user-friendliness.

Because chances are I may know better what to repair, and I do not want
to have to wait for sax to initialize its stuff before canceling it.

If you know that, you probably also know how to boot into runlevel 3, which won't even try to launch the X server and so will not end up trying to help you fix the startup failure by launching sax2 with those special notices.

Yes, I also know that.

But being the of the mad and forgetful scientific type, I will forget about the nvidia driver when YOU updates the kernel. As a matter of fact, sax will not solve this particular problem, don't you think?

Plus, there are many things that can crash the X system, which I can not or will not predict but which I can often repair without Yast or sax.

I prefer being dumped into a text terminal with an error message (or none), than being dumped into sax2, without having being let time to read the error message at my leisure.

Therefore, if you propose "don't ask", then I will propose "do nothing", and let the fools be damned :-P

Ie: either I'm asked "shall I start sax2 now?", or I will support the leave things as they are opinion. But trying to do things better for novices while pissing experts is not the way to go. Opensuse has to cater for both types.

- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.

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