Someone mentioned that KDE 3 apps would be considered for porting to 4 if requested, though I can't find the email now. It looks to me as if there are still quite a few panel applets missing. I'd really like the system monitor with the 3 vertical bars, because it shows at a glance what the system is up to. Also the panel clock is much better than the new one, the seconds display I'm missing most. konsole is missing the nifty icon at the bottom left which opened a new konsole session of choice, now it seems only be possible to open a a shell session. Is saving a session on logout not implemented yet, dropped, or have I been blind? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org