On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Per Jessen wrote:
Well, the thing is that you left the door open, whereas Marcus slammed it shut. I can't argue against a plain and unequivocal decision made by product management, whereas I can argue against a list of arguments :-)
:-) And you're welcome to! Feedback and discussion are good, but I will also try to be more explicit about unequivocally done deals in the future.
However, ext3 is the primary file system used by many if not most other distributions and we surely wnat that level of compatibility. That's a novel point - what compatibility are we talking about?
Being able to use (most) filesystems created by other distros, create filesystems for use by other distros, and specifically to allow for sharing filesystems in dual boot and similar situations. ext3 here is the common demonitator among Linux distributions.
If we're looking at new or relatively new users, they may be likely to switch from one distro to another, but as a distro-provider, do you really want to encourage that?
Well, we surely want to encourage folks to switch _to_ openSUSE. ;-)
What I'd like to understand is - why are you getting requests for XFS when it's already there?
It's not requests to *add* XFS support, but feedback from openSUSE users, developers and supporters, both in house and externally, partners, and customers (on the SLE side) how they use and appreciate XFS support especially since it is something few other distros offer, and none at the level we do. On the contrary, when it comes to JFS it's only been a handful of, admittedly very vocal ;-), users pushing for it.
As it happens I mostly agree, but don't wave your flag of "openSUSE kernel level support" when it's so difficult to come by anyway.
I beg to disagree in that I have seen ReiserFS issues and other critical kernel issues which affect a larger number of users addressed very quickly. Obviously this is the easier to do the more knowledge we have among openSUSE contributors (which, on the kernel side, mainly boils down to Novell engineers, sadly).
In my opinion, Novell is mixing openSUSE and SLES a little too much. The level of support is obviously different - as it should be - but to omit support for <something> from openSUSE just because you are not prepared to offer the required level of support for SLES, that's not in the interest of the openSUSE community, IMHO.
This is not what I wrote. The string "SLES" does not even appear below. ==== quote ==== You're right that the level of "support" the openSUSE development community provides widely varies among different components. Data loss or, worse, data corruption, are usually considered quite critical so we do want to be a bit more cautious on this front and this is why, for example, YaST issues a warning when setting up a JFS volume whereas we certainly don't do this when a user chooses one of the many secondary window environments in openSUSE. We have engineers on staff and/or tight partnerships who are closely familiar with ext3, ReiserFS, and XFS and thus can and readily do address issues with these three. This is not the case for JFS. ==== quote ==== Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp@novell.com SUSE Linux Products GmbH Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg) openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org