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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
  • From: "Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 22:21:04 -0600
  • Message-id: <200703042221.04350.rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Sunday 04 March 2007 21:31, Sid Boyce wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > The Saturday 2007-03-03 at 13:05 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> >> Well, both is an extension, just one is fine for fast responses, and the
> >> other allows more asynchronous work that will group more people that
> >> might be not familiar with bugzilla and/or IRC, can't attend at the
> >> times that are scheduled, but still can help. Sorting out to one medium
> >> will do just opposite from what is wanted.
> >>
> >> I can use IRC in the most basic form.
> >> That and time constrains will prevent me from attending antibug fest.
> >>
> >> What is the best can be decided on the run. I don't see the need to
> >> insist on one communication channel that fits for some purposes, and not
> >> for the other.
> >
> > I agree with you and jdd: I just have never used IRC and I don't like it.
> > I'm biased because till recently I did not have a permanent network
> > connection, so irc was out of the question. Also, what I write I do
> > slowly and thoughtfully, I can't correspond usefully on chat: I go back,
> > read what I have just wrote and correct it.
> >
> > I suppose many non English speakers would think similarly.
> >
> > Also, I understand others will prefer chat: so let's have more than one
> > method.
> >
> > - --
> > Cheers,
> > Carlos E. R.
> As an English speaker, I never have liked IRC either, it along with
> Mobile texting remind me too much of the old clattering Reed Teletype
> machines of a bygone age, they were old hat from the day they were
> invented and worse still, built and shipped.
> Regards
> Sid.

After all posts about IRC, I decided to make a list of my reasons:

- One has to pick up pieces of conversation that belong to him in a mess on
the screen which takes attention from the content. This is good suited for
chat, but not for serious work.

- Once something is gone from the screen it can be found in the logs, which in
effect lowers average speed substantially. Old messages are not important in
a chat, so this doesn't make a problem, but in bug solving effort it will
make problems.

- Time zones exist and it is another reason against IRC

- I have to learn how to use it efficiently, starting with command set, and
previous resons don't help me to see why.

There was a comment that email will be essentially repeating what is done on

Yes, it will be, but using medium where threading is supported which will give
us easy way to see who is replying to what, which thread goes in right
direction. Bugzilla messages are not intended for discussions, and reading
beyond first few posts becomes quite annoying experience.

Regards, Rajko.
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