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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
  • From: Sid Boyce <sboyce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 04:05:13 +0000
  • Message-id: <45EB96F9.9020302@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Friday 2007-03-02 at 23:15 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:52:25PM +0100, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:

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Both DE should be considered as alternatives, not as rivals. I do myself
this mistake, I know. But it's really annoying to read "Use KDE" or "Use
a KDE app" when a user asks for help about GNOME.
And WHY NOT? KDE apps work in GNOME, GNOME apps work in KDE.

I use GIMP regulary. I use Firefox occasionaly. Under KDE.

I use both gnome and kde, and apps from one in the other: for instance, konqueror or kbabel or amarok in gnome, gimp or firefox anywehere. Why not?


Well said so far and I'm in total agreement.

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The problem in general is that our GNOME developers work more on
the enterprise desktop , while the KDE guys work more on the openSUSE
snapshots, for above reasons.

IMO, the kde croud seems to be very vociferous when they think SUSE is tilting just a triffle to gnome. There are also many SuSE users, like me, that like gnome: we just keep quiet ;-)


So, please, keep the good work done with KDE, but also do not forget Gnome and try to make it be buggless. Even if it is not "shiny", we would very much like it to at least work, without _big_ bugs.


The use of KDE was the main reason I was attracted away from Redhat and that gawd awful CDE that graces Sun to this day. The main reason I'd be driven away from openSUSE would be the jettisoning of KDE - assurances have been given, but the push to do so is often voiced. The problem I personally have with a Gnome desktop is on two fronts.
1. It's too foreign and restrictive/prescriptive when you're used to KDE - there was a time when Gnome on SuSE was almost verboten. It may be just the ticket for anyone recently coming from Windows.
2. Try updating a Gnome app and you run into horrendous dependency problems - doesn't apply to people who install and don't need to touch.

There are many Gnome apps I like and run, so I install and update both Gnome and KDE as updates become available, but I largely don't get adventurous with Gnome. I wish both to progress and succeed, but just keep giving us the choice. Hobson's choice is not for us old fogies for whom SuSE (however you write it) is synonymous with KDE - Flexibility, configurability and easy to build for.
looks like that's more than just two fronts when broken down.
Regards
Sid.
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