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Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory
  • From: Sid Boyce <sboyce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:00:15 +0000
  • Message-id: <454D298F.4080405@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Thursday 2006-11-02 at 22:07 -0800, Greg KH wrote:

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 08:31:22PM -0300, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:

Users unfortunately does not care a shit about the legal or ethical
points on this, if SUSE does not have a quick and **extremely easy** way
to do this, they will simple switch to a distribution that is including
the drivers or providing a simple tool to install them. or will go back
to windows.

for me, and probably to every member of this list, installing the binary
driver aint a problem, but to the userbase this is a very seriuos
Well, if we tell people _why_ we don't include it, explaining the legal
and ethical issues surrounding it, that's the best we can do. If they
want to switch to something else for such a stance, I'm not going to
feel bad.

In short, don't break the law just to appease some people who want you
to do so.

I have friends that want to try linux, and they do, sometimes. They want everything to work by click click. If something needs to be installed, it's got to be with the mouse, windows install style. They don't care about licenses. I have tried to explain why, for instance, multimedia does not work: useless. Blah, blah, blah. They just want it to work, no matter how.

They don't even read the license, they just ckick enter, yes, or whatever button needs to be pressed to continue. Even if they paused to glance at it for a moment, when they see it is in English, they move on, because they can't read it.

And if it doesn't work, perhaps they blame me (or you) and reformat, and reinstall.

Perhaps you don't care much about those users, but if you want to make linux have a greater share, you should.

You don't need to convince me.

- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.

These guys sound like they are at the ages where learning becomes difficult for some and change becomes even more difficult. It's much easier to reformat and reinstall because that's what they are accustomed to. It reminds me of some of my once colleagues who would tell you they have no problems with Windows when Linux was mentioned and later tell you of all the problems they experienced with Windows, or as one colleague told me, he would go into the office and see a guy who seemed to be really getting stuck into work, only to find when you get near him, he'd be muttering "It's not supposed to do that", "I thought I had saved that".
The rest of us just get on and learn whatever is necessary. I bet when it comes to coping with Vista, they will rise to the occasion simply because they are forced to and they won't blame Microsoft for anything. Evolution looks like it will eventually produce computer users with just enough fingers to operate a mouse and typing will be restricted to clicking characters on a virtual keyboard.
Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach
Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

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