January 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

subfs dropped in 10.1 Beta 2
by houghi 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Hello all, During the IRC meeting from 2006-01-24 it was announced that subfs has been dropped. IRC log and minutes can be found at http://www.opensuse.org/2006-01-24-status-meeting and the timestap for the subfs issue begins at 19:47 >From the minutes: - subfs has been dropped and will be replaced by hal plus gnome-volume-manager (under GNOME) and some binary for KDE. non-KDE and non-GNOME users have to mount manually. They cant even put a line into /etc/fstab, so that a user can mount it. There was a consens that this is unacceptable. Action Item houghi: - start discussion about subfs replacement in non KDE/GNOME systems on opensuse-factory Questions that arise: - Should this be accepted or should it be delayed till a complete solution is given? - As the question came from an FAQ about having subfs disables, is there perhaps a better solution for everybody. Easy disableling subfs for those who want it and enabled for those who want that. - What are the implications of reversing the decision? What are the implications of going on as it is? Any other solutions or comments are welcome as well. Also bear in mind that some people might login over ssh and do not even have a windowmanager. houghi -- Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy.

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Virtual beta testing
by Volker Kuhlmann 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

Suppose one has access to a computer resonably well endowed in the CPU and disk departments, running SUSE 10.0. By far most of the beta testing could be done inside something like vmware. However, vmware is out of rea$$ of the average home user. What are the options? Xen, qemu, seperate disk partition to install into, ...? Can someone who has played with Xen, qemu, etc give a quick rundown for this purpose? Given a limited bandwidth which would make it at least 2 days to download all the selected packages, the above ability of doing this in some container running on a standard desktop box in the background would be a prerequisite. This would save having to download all the CDs in advance (and therefore a lot of unused volume). Is it possible to burn the downloaded used packages to DVD to test a non-virtual installation as well? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

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Networkmanager: where is it?
by Prumbaum, Frank 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Hello, after installing a3,a4 and now beta1 I haven't found the new network configuration utility yet. O.K., it seems to be an Desktop Applet visible in KDE systray, but I cannot see it. I have a two monitor (nvidia twinview) configuration. Maybe there is s.th. missing? Strange enough I have one desktop in my mother language german while the other stays in english. Is there a way to start it as an independet application (it won't show up by simply starting the binary)? Now, if I want a network interface restarted, I can't do it via 'ifdown eth1', I have to do rcnetwork stop|start. Greetings, Frank > ______________________________________ > AXA Technology Services Germany GmbH > FRANK PRUMBAUM > ATTS-AP/MW (HOL 5.1.6) > Colonia-Allee 10-20; 51067 Köln > Tel.: +49 (0)221 - 148 - 2 44 32 > Fax: +49 (0)221 - 148 - 44 2 19 19 > E-Mail: Mailto:Frank.Prumbaum@axa-tech.com > _____________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Aus Rechts- und Sicherheitsgruenden ist die in dieser E-Mail gegebene Information nicht rechtsverbindlich. Eine rechtsverbindliche Bestaetigung reichen wir Ihnen gerne auf Anforderung in schriftlicher Form nach. Beachten Sie bitte, dass jede Form der unautorisierten Nutzung, Veroeffentlichung, Vervielfaeltigung oder Weitergabe des Inhalts dieser E-Mail nicht gestattet ist. Diese Nachricht ist ausschliesslich fuer den bezeichneten Adressaten oder dessen Vertreter bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Adressat dieser E-Mail oder dessen Vertreter sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit dem Absender der E-Mail in Verbindung zu setzen. ---------------------------- For legal and security reasons the information provided in this e-mail is not legally binding. Upon request we would be pleased to provide you with a legally binding confirmation in written form. Any form of unauthorised use, publication, reproduction, copying or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This message is exclusively for the person addressed or their representative. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and its contents, please notify the sender immediately. ==============================================================================

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why don't my posts show up on the list?
by Frank-Michael Fischer 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: WELCOME to opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Date: 12 Jan 2006 16:20:36 -0000 From: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org To: fmfischer(a)googlemail.com Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org mailing list. I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at opensuse-factory-owner(a)opensuse.org. Acknowledgment: I have added the address fmfischer(a)googlemail.com to the opensuse-factory mailing list. Welcome to opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org! Please save this message so that you know the address you are subscribed under, in case you later want to unsubscribe or change your subscription address. To unsubscribe, send a message to: <opensuse-factory-unsubscribe-fmfischer=googlemail.com(a)opensuse.org> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've posted on January 20 and 30. On suse-beta-e my posts arrive in perfect order. FMF

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Logitech Messanger Webcam
by Joachim Reichelt 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Hallo, i got now my Logitech Webcam up, but not perfectly. It is only at 324x248. I used: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/5924/Logitech-QuickCam-Messenger-Webcam.… http://home.mag.cx/messenger/ The source states: only 162x124, 162x248, 324x124, 324x248 resolution available. -- Joachim

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susewatcher
by Andreas Vetter 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Hi, I just learned, that susewatcher has been dropped for 10.1 (see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=85780). Is there a replacement? -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg

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Strange problem
by Kevin R. Garand 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hello All, I installed OpenSuSe 10.1 beta with all the updates on a Dell Optiplex, with Windows XP on the first partition. Basically Windows was installed first, and then on the free space Open SuSE was installed. Now during reboot, I get just the Dell POST screen, it goes black, and then the Dell POST screen again, and this would go on forever if I let it. I know it hardly seems like an SuSe problem because it is barely getting to the boot process. I apologize in advance if this isn't the proper procedure for this type of thing, but I do not know how to create a bug report (if it is) and I am looking for help. Thank you in advance as well. BIOS has been put back to hard drive as first device as I booted from CD-ROM to install. Again, many apologies if needed as well as many thanks for any advice. AceMan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Major libSDL performance problems on SuSE 10.1 Beta1 x86-64
by Martin Bickel 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:25:50 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >"Martin Bickel" <mbickel(a)asc-hq.org> writes: > >> Hello, >> >> I've encountered an extremely degraded performance for all SDL based >> applications / games on 10.1 Beta1. Drawing the application window is >> so slow that one can watch it being drawn from top to bottom. > >Is this a issue of our slow fontconfig? Please test the updated RPM >that I announced, No, unfortunately not. Installing the new fontconfig didn't help. To demonstrate and reproduce the problem, I've made the attached test program (build instructions included). It just makes simple screen updates for 20 seconds without drawing anything. Debian unstable, X.org 6.9.0 with radeon driver, SDL 1.2.9, x86-64: 230 fps SuSE 10.1 beta 1, X.org 6.9.0-9 with radeon driver, SDL 1.2.9, x86-64: 2 fps !!! So 2 fps is the upper limit that _any_ SDL-based 2D-applications will reach on SuSE 10.1. And most games and emulators included in SuSE are based on SDL. I suggest to get some more results from different installations to see if this problem is specific to my setup or common. Regards, Martin Bickel /* prerequisite packages: SDL SDL-dev to compile: g++ -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -c testfps.cpp g++ -o testfps testfps.o -lm -lSDL -lpthread */ #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include "SDL.h" int main() { /* Initialize SDL */ if ( SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) < 0 ) { fprintf(stderr, "Couldn't initialize SDL: %s\n",SDL_GetError()); exit(1); } atexit(SDL_Quit); int video_bpp; const SDL_VideoInfo *info = SDL_GetVideoInfo(); if ( info->vfmt->BitsPerPixel > 8 ) { video_bpp = info->vfmt->BitsPerPixel; } else { video_bpp = 16; fprintf(stderr, "forced 16 bpp mode\n"); } SDL_Surface *screen; if ( (screen=SDL_SetVideoMode(1000,700,video_bpp,SDL_SWSURFACE)) == NULL ) { fprintf(stderr, "Couldn't set video mode: %s\n", SDL_GetError()); exit(2); } int time = 20; Uint32 ticks1 = SDL_GetTicks(); Uint32 ticks2; int frames = 0; do { SDL_UpdateRect(screen, 0, 0, 0, 0); ++frames; ticks2 = SDL_GetTicks(); } while ( ticks2 - ticks1 < time * 1000 ); printf("%d fps\n", frames / time ); return(0); }

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Beta2: install on LVM impossible
by Carl-Daniel Hailfinger 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hi, just filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=145928 because installing on LVM will not work. If you really need that, run "vgchange -a y" on a commandline directly before clicking on "OK" for installation. However, if your / is on LVM and /boot is not, the install will fail at the bootloader stage because /boot is mounted before / and thus is invisible after mounting / . Don't worry, this will probably be fixed soon. Regards, Carl-Daniel -- http://www.hailfinger.org/

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SLP & CD Install
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hello, I have a problem to install 10.1 CD install and SLP install or nfs install is not working? Is this a known problem ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regard, Günther J. Niederwimmer

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