October 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Quick question
by Paul Taylor 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

How do I kill kde and return the server to just a login so that I can save on resources. I have never done this as I am a child of the gui and it is killing my web server on the net. Paul

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What do people use for a desktop database?
by s-clarob＠st-aidans.cumbria.sch.uk 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

What are people using for a desktop database? Or what options are there? If we were to move to Linux in the curriculum we would need a useable Database for our sixth form projects. Thanks Rob

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reply from edexcel uk
by fsanta 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

<me> Here is the reply from edexcel about using Linux in their gcse courses. It's worrying. Please tell me our opinions. </me> Date: 29/10/03 Ref: SS/CSS Dear Steve Sheriff, In response to your email, as per advice from the Principal Moderator, I can confirm that the GCSE course is not dependent on any particular software, therefore centres can use any platform they like. Examples of standard and extended are microsoft based so your centre would need to be careful in their justification of Extended project work. I hope you will find this information helpful, but if you require further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us. Regards, Seyi Salawu Customer Relations Co-ordinator International Customer Relations Unit

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Re: Suse8.2 as a mailserver
by Alan Davies 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

Still can't get this to go. SMTP works fine and mail goes into and out of linux box via the router. Local mail works on linux box. A PC connecting to the linux box can send mail OK via SMTP to Linux box (which uses postfix) BUT I can't get POP3 nor IMAP connections to read any mail. Either it refuses the login from the mail client or complains about the authorisation. I can see imap,and pop3 in netstat as listening devices. Clearly I am missing something. Do I need to fiddle with Hosts.allow/deny Telnet works OK - as does xdm sessions to PC clients. Do I need to fiddle with Cyrus or PROCmail? -- Alan Davies Head of Computing Birkenhead School

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nothing but kde
by Andrew Nix 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

Does anyone know which file I have to edit in to order to stop people logging into anything other than kde? Ive done it once before but I cant remember which file need editing. If you need more information just ask as I dont feel Ive been very clear, but cant think of any btter way to put it Cheers -- Andrew Nix St Pauls Catholic High School Firbank Road Newall Green Wythenshawe Manchester M23 2YS tel: 0161 4922040 fax: 0161 4982030

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Suse Open Exchange Server
by Jon Lawson-Broadhead 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

Is anyone out there using Suse OpenExchange server????? Jon Lawson-Broadhead IT Support Manager Fairfax School - IT Support Office Fairfax Road Sutton Coldfield Birmingham B75 7JT email jon.lawsonbroadhead(a)fairfax.bham.sch.uk website <http://www.fairfax.bham.sch.uk/> http://www.fairfax.bham.sch.uk phone 0121 378 1288 ext 444 mobile 07956 211712

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NFS wont mount
by Andrew Nix 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

I have just upgraded to suse 9. My machine is set up as an NIS client. But it wont moount any home directories. Actually this isnt strictly true. In order to actually make it an NIS client in the first place I had to add a line to /etc/fstab to mount the home direcories, which looks like this: homer:/home /home nfs rw 0 0 But when the machine boots, this line appears to be ignored. If I go to command line and type mount -a it reruns fstab and mount everything fine. My question is why doest this happen at boot up? Am I missing something this line that would stop it mounting at boot time? I have had a look through the suse manual but it doest list many examples of options that can be used in fstab. All of them seem quite irrelavent for what I need to do. But also had a search on the net but couldnt Find anything of any help. Has anyone else had this problem? Any advice pionters would be much appeciated. Cheers -- Andrew Nix St Pauls Catholic High School Firbank Road Newall Green Wythenshawe Manchester M23 2YS tel: 0161 4922040 fax: 0161 4982030

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Linux in schools - a worked example
by paul 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

I have started this thread on my local lug also, the following links have come forward, so i decided to post them here, any examples of where linux has been used should prove useful to anyone trying to advocate linux in schools. ftp://ftp.skolelinux.no/skolelinux-cd/ http://www.skolelinux.org/projectinfo.html.en http://developer.skolelinux.no/arkitektur/arkitektur.html.en --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 22/10/03

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Suse8.2 as a mailserver
by Jez Rogers 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

Alan Davies wrote: > I've decided to branch out and extend our use of LINUX by using it as a mail > server> > > postfix seems to be istalled and i"ve set up the run level to start smtpd and > smtp - and used yast to start imap and pop3. > > However, I cannot get our PC clients to connect to either pop3 or imap - > despite trying various combinations of secure/not seure ssh or whatever. Don't think ssh is the tool to use. Telnet is OK, but you'll need to specify the correct port - the standard 23 won't work. > Clearly this is a case of that metaphysics rule that its always harder the > first time you try it and once you can convince yourself that you have made > the right settings it WILL work. The trouble is that I don't have that > confidence. > > When I do ps -A (as root) I can see smtp things but no reference to imap or > pop - whch rather bothers me. > No, that's normal. The likes of pop and imap are started by the xinetd daemon, whenever an incoming connection is received. You should, however see a "listener" on port 110 (pop) and 143 (imap). Check with netstat -an Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:143 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:110 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN With regard to postfix, it's most likely listening only on 127.0.0.1, so the rest of the network can't get to it. I'm a qmail fiend, so I can't help you on that front. -- jez Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . mailto:jez@jezndi.org http://www.jezndi.org

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reply from edexcel uk
by ian 30 Oct '03

30 Oct '03

On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 09:05, ICT Support Officer wrote: > Education authorities are also to blame as I believe they probably receive a > slice of profits from industry by pushing commercial software into schools. I don't think that there is any particular evidence for this. Its more likely that they just take the line of least resistance. Its not their money so why cause themselves hassle? Why should they learn new things? (Obviously lifelong learning is for other people) Its incompetence more than conspiracy. > There is so much free and fully functional software out there for education. Yes but marketing is a key part of getting any product to the customer otherwise companies wouldn't spend masses of money on it. FLOSS has cracked the technical development side of things to a much greater degree than it has marketing. > I must repeat, I am so saddened to see so much money from schools being > "wasted". So what do we do about it? Better to put the time into constructive action than just worrying about it. Here are a few suggestions. Join the AFFS (Association for Free Software) Come to the FLOSSIE conference in February and get as many others to as possible. Join the OpenOffice.org education project Make sure you buy as much equipment as possible from companies that also support non-Microsoft solutions in schools Educate the kids about FLOSS so they become better informed Run an after school IT club that supports a FLOSS project or producing FLOSS teacing resources. Use theINGOTs.org assessment for certificating pupils Get pupils involved in theINGOTs.org competitions Contribute some basic teaching materials in free formats to Schoolforge Remember - Give a brick, get a house. All we need is every teacher who thinks like you do to get a dozen pupils to produce some a few resources. -- ian <ian.lynch2(a)ntlworld.com>

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