August 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printers.conf restart
by Chris Puttick 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

That's the correct format - can you try just denying a specific user and see if that works? After that post your entire printers.conf so we can see it in context. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Nix To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 8/28/03 2:20 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printers.conf restart I tried it and it still let the unwanted user print. I think i must have done something wrong elsewhere. Does anyone if I have to edit any other file other than /etc/cups/printers.conf? If the problem isnt with the which file im editing. Then could someone tell me if im doing it right? In /etc/cups/printers.conf I have put a line the says DentUser @Students To specify an entire group that dont have access to the printer. I also tried DenyUser= @Students But neither worked. Could someone please tell me what im doing wrong? Cheers > You probably need to restart CUPS - rccupsd restart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Nix > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Sent: 8/28/03 1:38 PM > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printers.conf restart > > I have made some additions to printers.conf to allow/deny users access > to > a printer. I there something I have to restart in order to get my > changes > recognised. I ask this because i have specified certain users cant use a > printer. So I tested what I had done and It appeared not to work. Does > anyone know what Im doing wrong? > Cheers > -- > Andrew Nix > > St Pauls Catholic High School > Firbank Road > Newall Green > Wythenshawe > Manchester > M23 2YS > tel: 0161 4375841 ext 168 > fax: 0161 4982030 > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For > additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For > additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printers.conf restart
by Chris Puttick 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

You probably need to restart CUPS - rccupsd restart -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Nix To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 8/28/03 1:38 PM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printers.conf restart I have made some additions to printers.conf to allow/deny users access to a printer. I there something I have to restart in order to get my changes recognised. I ask this because i have specified certain users cant use a printer. So I tested what I had done and It appeared not to work. Does anyone know what Im doing wrong? Cheers -- Andrew Nix St Pauls Catholic High School Firbank Road Newall Green Wythenshawe Manchester M23 2YS tel: 0161 4375841 ext 168 fax: 0161 4982030 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Printers.conf restart
by Andrew Nix 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

I have made some additions to printers.conf to allow/deny users access to a printer. I there something I have to restart in order to get my changes recognised. I ask this because i have specified certain users cant use a printer. So I tested what I had done and It appeared not to work. Does anyone know what Im doing wrong? Cheers -- Andrew Nix St Pauls Catholic High School Firbank Road Newall Green Wythenshawe Manchester M23 2YS tel: 0161 4375841 ext 168 fax: 0161 4982030

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Linux systems for managementin Educat ion
by Chris Puttick 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

My apologies for crassly reading the last copy of the email, thinking "I must reply to that" and then it promptly disappearing out of view (and out of memory...). School management systems are very varied and encompass a wide variety of tasks; essentially nothing exists that covers the full range, open source or commercially. There are a number of open source projects that cover particular aspects of school administration, in various stages of development. Only one (that I'm aware of) seeks to make allowance for everything, SchoolTool. By adopting a modular approach, SchoolTool intends to not only cover every aspect of school administration, but also different countries needs. See: http://schooltool.sourceforge.net Schooltool has not yet released code, but is funded by the Shuttleworth Foundation and has contracted developers - core code is scheduled for delivery in September. SchoolTool will be accessible by both web browsers and cross-platform GUIs. A number of key (and funded) projects are in the pipeline, such as ILP (Individual Learning Plans), CPDM (Curriculum Performance Data Management), and the primary adaptation of the latter. These are being developed concurrently, with ILP and Primary-CPDM (project Tigger) being developed by the same team here at Central Manchester City Learning Centre. All these three are going into pilot stage next month. All are web-based to reduce TCO. Public online demonstrations will be available shortly, and the two we are directly involved in will be registered on SourceForge in a few days (as PigletandFriends!). There is also our helpdesk system, HelpMeICT, which is a highly configurable web-based solution, which is easily adapted to provide ticket-tracking for admin and building services requests as well as ICT. A single server could transparently deal with hundreds of sites, grouped as required. While this is not specifically for schools, it is undoubtedly something that schools are in increasing need of to manage their ever-growing IT systems. Equivalent commercial helpdesk solutions would cost thousands of pounds per school (and per council/NHS Trust etc.!). HelpMeICT is also being adapted as a pupil behaviour tracker. See: http://sourceforge.net/projects/helpmeict/ and http://helpdesk.centralmanclc.com I'm aware of several other school admin solutions that are available open source, but these are primarily US/Canada focussed and would need considerable adaptation to be of use here in the UK. Commercial support for the solutions listed will be available. I hope this helps. If you want any further information on any of the above, please feel free to contact me. Regards Chris Puttick IT Manager Central Manchester City Learning Centre +44 (0)161 212 1972 -----Original Message----- From: adrian.wells To: Joanne.Sawyer(a)trinitypub.co.uk Cc: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 8/26/03 2:44 PM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Linux systems for managementin Education Hi Joanne, Below is a copy of my reply to Leo. The LINUX list has been quiet of late - holidays (?), I have only received four emails since forwarding Leo's request on the 11th. I would rather you spoke to the grinder rather than a monkey so that puts me out of the picture! If no one gets back to you soon, or if I can help in any other way please feel free to drop me a line. Kind regards Adrian Wells ----- Original Message ----- From: adrian.wells <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> To: Leo Waldock <leo(a)leowaldock.com> Cc: <Joanne.Sawyer(a)trinitypub.co.uk> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Linux systems for managementin Education > Hi Leo, > > Thanks for the mail, I've forward your request to > suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com where the guys are working on a new Open > Source Project. > > We use Dolphin/Mentor here, If you would like some copy on that then drop me > a line. > > Later > > Adrian Wells > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leo Waldock <leo(a)leowaldock.com> > To: <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> > Cc: <Joanne.Sawyer(a)trinitypub.co.uk> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:57 PM > Subject: Linux systems for managementin Education > > > > Adrian > > > > I'm writing a feature for Jo Sawyer at Public Sector Computing about the > > alternatives for management software in the education sector. I understand > > you have some involvement in this field and would appreciate your > comments, > > particularly relating to products that are available now, and that have > been > > tried and tested in the field. > > > > I'll be on holiday from Sunday 10th August until 20th August, so if this > is > > a work email address that you won't access until Monday, please don't > think > > I am ignoring any reply that you send me. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Leo Waldock > > > > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Linux systems for management in Education
by adrian.wells 26 Aug '03

26 Aug '03

Sorry, Thought that maybe the email and address may help! :-) Kind regards Adrian ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Adrian, We spoke onthe phone a couple of months ago about the possibility of our publication covering free SIMS software for schools,. I've since read a discussion you've had online here: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-uk-schools/2003-May/0222.html and would very much like to follow up the topic in a an article in the next issue. One of our freelance writers, Leo Waldock, has been trying to contact you for some further information, to enable him to write the article for us. Would you be able to drop him or myself a line to talk about this further? Otherwise, could you put me in contact with someone else who would be able to offer some further information? Many thanks, Jo Sawyer Editor Tel:- +44(0)121 233 8712 Fax:- +44(0)121 233 8715 mailto:jo.sawyer@trinitypub.co.uk http://www.publicsectorcomputing.co.uk Public Sector Computing IT Trade Publishing Ltd 1st Floor Edward House 92/93 Edward Street Birmingham West Midlands ENGLAND B1 2RA Registered in England VAT registration No. 643999383 Registered Office: Kingsfield Court, Chester Business Park, Chester, CH4 9RE "Leo Waldock" <leo(a)leowaldock.com> 08/08/2003 16:57 To: <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> cc: <Joanne.Sawyer(a)trinitypub.co.uk> Subject: Linux systems for managementin Education Adrian I'm writing a feature for Jo Sawyer at Public Sector Computing about the alternatives for management software in the education sector. I understand you have some involvement in this field and would appreciate your comments, particularly relating to products that are available now, and that have been tried and tested in the field. I'll be on holiday from Sunday 10th August until 20th August, so if this is a work email address that you won't access until Monday, please don't think I am ignoring any reply that you send me. Regards, Leo Waldock ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________

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Linux systems for managementin Education
by adrian.wells 26 Aug '03

26 Aug '03

Hi Joanne, Below is a copy of my reply to Leo. The LINUX list has been quiet of late - holidays (?), I have only received four emails since forwarding Leo's request on the 11th. I would rather you spoke to the grinder rather than a monkey so that puts me out of the picture! If no one gets back to you soon, or if I can help in any other way please feel free to drop me a line. Kind regards Adrian Wells ----- Original Message ----- From: adrian.wells <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> To: Leo Waldock <leo(a)leowaldock.com> Cc: <Joanne.Sawyer(a)trinitypub.co.uk> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Linux systems for managementin Education > Hi Leo, > > Thanks for the mail, I've forward your request to > suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com where the guys are working on a new Open > Source Project. > > We use Dolphin/Mentor here, If you would like some copy on that then drop me > a line. > > Later > > Adrian Wells > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leo Waldock <leo(a)leowaldock.com> > To: <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> > Cc: <Joanne.Sawyer(a)trinitypub.co.uk> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:57 PM > Subject: Linux systems for managementin Education > > > > Adrian > > > > I'm writing a feature for Jo Sawyer at Public Sector Computing about the > > alternatives for management software in the education sector. I understand > > you have some involvement in this field and would appreciate your > comments, > > particularly relating to products that are available now, and that have > been > > tried and tested in the field. > > > > I'll be on holiday from Sunday 10th August until 20th August, so if this > is > > a work email address that you won't access until Monday, please don't > think > > I am ignoring any reply that you send me. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Leo Waldock > > > > >

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HelpMeICT new version
by Chris Puttick 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

Hi For those interested, HelpMeICT (our GPL helpdesk software) version 0.72 has been released with some minor enhancements including the ability to record the time taken by support staff in tackling and/or solving the problem. You can download it from the Sourceforge project page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/helpmeict/ and try the online demo (and download it): http://helpdesk.centralmanclc.com Cheers Chris

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Open Office
by Samuel Deakin 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Open Office doesn't work on the student profiles, but it works on mine, so I copied over my working folder of open office "cp /home/samdea/OpenOffice.org1.1 -R /home/test2/OpenOffice1.1/" "chown test2:users /home/test2/OpenOffice.org1.1/ -R" I also copied the shortcut of samdea/Deaktop the test2/Desktop and chown it I then logged in as test2 and tested it and it come up with the installation of Open Office. I want it to just work with no installation. How would I copy it to every user except test3, samdea, anix Is there a file somewhere that I need to copy over from samdea to test2 which will make OpenOffice think its already been installed Thanks Sam

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SIMS Killer
by adrian.wells 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Hi, More from "Public Sector Computing". Maybe the School Admin Software Team would like to reply to this. I've mailed Leo to tell him that I've forwarded his request to this list. Later Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: Leo Waldock <leo(a)leowaldock.com> To: <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> Cc: <Joanne.Sawyer(a)trinitypub.co.uk> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: Linux systems for managementin Education > Adrian > > I'm writing a feature for Jo Sawyer at Public Sector Computing about the > alternatives for management software in the education sector. I understand > you have some involvement in this field and would appreciate your comments, > particularly relating to products that are available now, and that have been > tried and tested in the field. > > I'll be on holiday from Sunday 10th August until 20th August, so if this is > a work email address that you won't access until Monday, please don't think > I am ignoring any reply that you send me. > > Regards, > > > Leo Waldock > >

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addins users to groups....... 500+
by Andrew Nix 08 Aug '03

08 Aug '03

I need to add 500+ user to a group. Does anyone know how I can this without adding each person individually? As I think I might be sat in this seat for the next two weeks adding everyone and miss my holiday to Ibiza! Cheers -- Andrew Nix St Pauls Catholic High School Firbank Road Newall Green Wythenshawe Manchester M23 2YS tel: 0161 4375841 ext 168 fax: 0161 4982030

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