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[Bug 462256] alpine: bad URL-Viewers in default configuration
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  • Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:18:16 -0700 (MST)
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User chappa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx added comment

--- Comment #6 from Eduardo Chappa <chappa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2009-01-31 09:18:11
MST ---
(In reply to comment #5)
(In reply to comment #2)

The code in Alpine assumes that the html viewer is more than that,
that you also want to interact with the content (e.g. follow links
in that content)

I understand your point about display vs. interaction, but URLs add another
dimension to this. /etc/mailcap is about files that are already stored on the
local machine (see the definition of %s in mailcap(4) as being the name of a
file that contains the actual content to be displayed) and whose file format
known. In contrast, a URL describes a way to fetch the content, and you won't
know the file format until you fetch at least the header (in case of HTTP).

I agree with you 100%, but that does not mean that I endorse your conclusions,
because there are other considerations to take into account. The "-dump" option
does not allow the user to interact with the content. If you go through the
mailcap file in SuSe you will see that many entries do allow interaction with
the content (not just display). Probably it would be good to know why SuSe did
not allow the user to interact with the content, and just parse it.

One way to solve this issue is to eliminate the "-dump" from there. Maybe you
can find out why it is there, and why SuSe will not eliminate it. That I would
be interested to know.

So, I still think alpine is wrong in assuming that a program that is specified
as being able to display (or edit) a local HTML document is also able to
retrieve and display the content behind arbitrary URLs.

That I agree in principle, but practice is so different. Do you know any
program that only displays html files that does not let you interact with them?
(or for that matter a program that displays pictures that does not let you edit
them? - well answering my own question, a web browser, but that is not what
SuSe adds to the mailcap file).

It's not a black or white issue. I would like to know what motivated SuSe to
add the -dump option to w3m. That is more to the point of this discussion.


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