On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Nelson Marques
Hi,
This is mainly a personal opinion as such might not be like other people but I'll try to be superficial enough to keep things simple...
I would probably treat the slideshow as if it was a TV premier commercial time. This means, doing a triage of the stuff more important you have on your showcase.
From a Marketing perspective, I would probably claim that using this space to "educate" your users could be nice. It's in fact one of the main variables for any service marketing. Education, in a way we should have a pedagogic behavior towards the audience.
As you say, and very well in my opinion; it's a good idea to face it from a 'look what you can do with your opensuse' then exactly from a more 'dead' perspective such as 'look we feature all this cool software' and no one remembers later.
I don't know the time frames involved, but maybe a small brainstrom through a collaborative tool and try to create something like a 30 sec pitch for any of the features you guys want to highlight and start from there?
I like the invitation part, and honestly this should be a good thing and actually being done... but there's something I would like to remember first about this 'invitation' we should have already to go alongside with it a small 'place' or something that could work as a easy start up ramp. Imagine you get people attention, then what? you are going to send them into a wiki ? you are going them into mailing lists? foruns ? I mean that idea should actually be far more explored and the concept developed. I would strongly go for the 'invitation', I believe it might become a win.
Another thing I would like to comment, or maybe I'm wrong... but it's just how I see it from lurking. The Ambassadorial initiative is having a lot of positive sinergies. I would also consider taking one slide to helping it getting a boost and some more visibility... In a way, Ambassadors are the community front office. I believe it's a good investment in promoting Ambassadors, specially in such a flashy thing as in an installer. I believe it will pay off well.
There is one 'another thing' also I can point... For people who are already in a way familiarized with another distro or even first comers... getting access to packages and repositories for me was somehow tricky. It was in a way easier with Fedora because I was already familiarized with 'yum' and their own repository, rawhide was also a place where I shopped around... rpmfind... and barely I needed something out from there.
When I landed on openSUSE with a more serious approach, I had to get familiarized with zypper, your software repo's and some browsing adventures searching other repo's. I would eventually spare some space on slides for some tools that help people who are for example changing from another distro. Zypper is a good start... osc is a must in my opinion. And it's probably a good hook to link to build and studio, which without doubt should be present. I believe that investing on this tools could actually trigger more interest in people that are trying openSUSE and are already familiarized with another flavour. Some $care for repo's info and a little intro could also be fun either for first timers, casuals...
nelson
Taking after this idea. I have been told a couple of times about the difficulty of a change that using openSUSE entails for new users. A couple of people suggested to me, through my blog, about adding videos that could explain how key elements work in openSUSE. Software installation, menus, virtual desktops, etc. Maybe, the slideshow used in the installation could have a more "educational" purpose. It could explain these tasks through images and simple text as well as the other slides that promote important power user tools for people. Andy (anditosan)
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:44 +0200, S.Kemter wrote:
Hello,
as some of u know, I try to redesign the installer of ur distro. Some time ago I did a blogpost about the slideshow in it.
http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2587
I think the text information in the slideshow, and which slides we show, should be reimproved too. So I made a little brainstorm what should the slideshow contain and in which order should they showed. U can find it here: http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/yast-installer2.png
1. project should be a little introducion what openSUSE is and how its created 2. one of my points was, that in the old slideshow would showed many slides with what the installed distro has, u never keep all names of the programs in ur mind during the install process, so better make a generally slide that says, u have all installed what u need and can find more. And show a way how to find the programs 3. in the old slideshow openFATE wasnt mentioned, I think thats not good because a user who work with ur ditro all day can sometimes have good ideas what we can do better. So we should give him a whole slide 4. How u can find help, should be contain some words to openSUSE wiki and forums and so on 5. How u can help, should descirbe that we are a project from contributors and that there is a way to contribute too 6-7. 2 slides with ways to contribute 8. Build ur own should be a slide about SUSE Studio 9. a slide about the OBS 10. a last slide, for short repeat and invite to be part of openSUSE
The only problem is, I dont like to do this alone without a discussion, second reason I am not really good wit english texts ;)
So would u help me with this? As I know Jos created a piratepad or something like that.
br gnokii
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