I'm going to make my statement here as a user of the OpenSoundSystem to this *bad* discussion at the kernel mailing list. First i have to say that i got a lot of help from the OSS president personally to get my sound working properly, all that without buying a License :-) - while i was trying to get ALSA running before i received no answers or "buy a other soundcard" for my questions :-( Related to this kernel-discussion: i'm very unhappy about the way this discussion had gone and it would have been better if the OSS president had explained his problems in a more polite and neutral way... on the other site i understand really why he has gone so angry: they just solved all the issues (problems that occured only with SuSE and none of the other great distributions) with SuSE 9.1 and released a new OSS version this week that works good with the SuSE 2.6.4-xx-x86_64 kernels. one day later SuSE provided the 2.6.5-7.x kernel via YaST Online Update and all is broken again :-( i could feel with the OSS team that this is a bit too much at the moment... i hope that SuSE can take a bit care off such kernel changes, as they're taking a lot off care that they don't break nVidias drivers ;-) the worst thing is that the OSS president said he don't have the possibility to discuss his problems directly with SuSE - i hope that SuSE can start a direct dialogue for that i'm not a developer so i couldn't say if this mass of kernel changes is necessary but it causes a lot of problems for the users like me - not only with OSS - i know a lot of guys that had to change to other distributions because they didn't get special drivers (for internet- connections for example) running with this SuSE kernels. i think that it's very important to find a solution for that... i know that SuSE makes a lot for improving the Linux-kernels and this may cause changes but please don't forget the compatibility with standard kernels and other distributions... best regards Franz PS: i couldn't and won't believe that SuSE makes anything like a 'attack' against OSS as the OSS president seems to say, i hope that this 'discussion' could get back in a normal non-emotional track soon... ___________________________________________________________ Bestellen Sie Y! DSL und erhalten Sie die AVM "FritzBox SL" für 0. Sie sparen 119 und bekommen 2 Monate Grundgebührbefreiung. http://de.adsl.yahoo.com