2011/7/27 Jos Poortvliet
On 2011-07-25 Kim wrote:
Am 25.07.2011 21:45, schrieb Sebastian Oliva:
I am worried though about the contrary, the effects of this on the rest of the FOSS community. At least in my region, we got some flak from the previous deals, and I feel this one will not be an exception.
yeah, this is one of the main problem. From the corporate point of view it´s kinda great to have such deal, but the community point of view is much much worse.
Well a few tin-foil-hats still complain but let's be real. This deal is an extension (the second) of a deal which was started 5 years ago. Everyone screamed blood and murder and has the sky fallen due to this deal? No, it has not. Nothing bad happened*. So I say - business as usual, boring, nothing to see here. It's a corporate thing, let SUSE do their thing...
I sometimes post to an Linux-forum and sometimes talk about the patent-deal. That the other members call me and SUSE "idiots and traitors on open source and the FLOSS-community" is normal.
See * - they are hypocrites or just don't know what they talk about.
I´m really disappointed about that :-(
*sure things did happen... Those complainy people DO enjoy the benefits of the SUSE-Microsoft deal every time their Libre/OpenOffice reads a doc or docx file, every time they hang their laptop in a windows network, run linux on HyperV or Windows in a VM under linux etc etc. Even if they use Fedora or Ubuntu or another distro. Because none of this code is a fork of anything else; none of this code is under a CLA; and all this code is actively contributed back to Free Software projects. Through SUSE, it seems to me, MS is a better FOSS citizen than some large linux distributions themselves...
Not to say I believe MS does this out of their good heart. It's a business which needs to make money. And because of that sometimes does stupid and evil stuff. Just like Canonical, Red Hat and SUSE. You shouldn't believe the PR - a company has no morals. People do.
We just have the luck to have companies who make money on doing the right thing, like SUSE and Red Hat.
I really want to blog about it but I don't know were to start, also I have no problem call hypocrites hypocrites, especially when most of the people defending Free Software and blame Bad MS carry an Apple iSomething with them, but this could raise a flame war. I once spoke about it in a conference when I was asked about that and I raised hell. For some reason people believe that ideologically Apple is closer to Linux than MS, I really don't get that, I strongly believe the opposite, anyway, to much negative energy. As I said before, many people of Free Software when it comes to thinking are working with Proprietary Software in their minds. Kostas -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://own.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org